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It bugs me that there is no easy way to make a calendar based on the moon and sun cycles. The week is also questionable since it seems to be only based on the bible and the fact that 28=4*7, there is no real cycle. After looking it up, it seems to be more based on the number 7, the seven visible celestial bodies.
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PotatoFieldsForever wrote: Fri Feb 10, 2023 10:50 am It bugs me that there is no easy way to make a calendar based on the moon and sun cycles. The week is also questionable since it seems to be only based on the bible and the fact that 28=4*7, there is no real cycle. After looking it up, it seems to be more based on the number 7, the seven visible celestial bodies.
It's not a bug in the system...if you don't like the Bible, you'll hate the next bit, but the thing is, it explains what we see, even though I'm explaining an algebraic equation where we don't know the exact nature of what is being discussed, instead only a set of representative symbols that behave like the thing...
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I was pondering the same thing, and I don't even know how I got on to this. But it's wonderful, and it was the ultimate proof to me there is a Creator God and there will be a resurrection and final judgement. So, if all the cycles fitted exactly, we would be stuck in a loop, a circuit, a forever Groundhog Day. To therefore have an escape, there needs to be progression, and the only way to get progression is for it not to quite fit, so instead of a circle, we have a spiral. It is therefore a design feature why a calendar cannot be made based on moon and sun cycles.

Biblically, if we believe there is a resurrection and a judgement, then everyone who has ever lived needs to have been stored somewhere as a record. And to hold these records there would need to be a database. But it is not enough just to have a database, there needs to be a way of finding each unique record in that database. To do that you need a primary key.

rachel wrote: Tue May 03, 2022 7:04 pm What is a Key?
When we are working with databases, we store data in tables. Tables are a collection of the same type of record. A table has columns.
A “key” is a field in a table that is used in the identification of that record.
That seems pretty broad, but that’s because there are different types of keys.

What is a Primary Key?
A primary key is one or more columns in a table that are used to uniquely identify the row.
When you’re working with a relational database, you have multiple tables and you need to link them to each other. There needs to be a way to identify records, even if data changes. The way to do this is using a primary key.
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Coincidence?

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PAPAL COAT OF ARMS CROSSED KEYS

So if we then consider part of the primary key includes time, and we assume that the stars turning above our head are actually a sky clock where the progression identifies our birth/our death; we should find beyond the sidereal, solar, lunar days, which are like the second, minute, hour hands of a clock, there should be a much bigger circle with a vast redundancy, like looking at the year cycle in comparison to a minute cycle.
rachel wrote: Sun Apr 24, 2022 10:38 pm The Precession of the Equinoxes
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The precession of the equinoxes is said to be the wobble of the earth which makes the poles appear to shift position through a 26,000 year cycle; this cycle in turn changes the position of the vernal and autumnal equinoxes in the sky continually over time. The sun, when used as a pointer against the zodiac, is gradually tracking backwards one degree every 72 years, 30 degrees to complete each one of the twelve houses in the zodiac celestial wheel. To completely move through one house is 72 years times 30, equalling 2160 years, or "an age". The celestial wheel is split into twelve zodiac houses, so to complete one cycle is 2160 times 12 equaling 25,920 years, which is called the great year.

We have our larger progression, meaning the night sky is never ever repeated exactly. It is the primary key. It's not a wobble, it's the spiralling nature of a scroll; it is the database we are all written on. And bear in mind, the Bible says the earth is about 6000 years old, so the sky clock is probably an image of the actual timepiece in heaven which is before the earth.

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I like the above music box model because the big wheel is like the stars slowly turning anti-clockwise around the North Star, unwinding and feeding time into the present; while the smaller wheel is the clockwise progression of the timepiece spinning to the point when the scroll is finally fully unwound and the resurrection takes place.

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Below is a reference to a sky scroll and the final judgement in the Bible, but I also go on about the New Song in the Rob Skiba thread.

THE MEANING OF THE HEAVENS WILL BE ROLLED UP LIKE A SCROLL
https://www.wisdomofgod.us/2019/07/14/t ... -scroll-2/

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rachel wrote: Fri Feb 10, 2023 10:40 pm
Coincidence?
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PAPAL COAT OF ARMS CROSSED KEYS
Just an off-hand remark from reading the thread and last post.
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The papal coat of arms with its keys and cross is interesting, and what furthermore struck me is the phonetic similarity between "papal" and "paypal". Never actually found Paypal* to be a fitting name for the online service, but if the Vatican is involved somehow, it would be.
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Papal - Paypal
(the words are homophones)

* Elon Musk decided that X.com would terminate its other internet banking operations and focus on PayPal. That same month, Elon Musk was replaced by Peter Thiel (Thiel - The Lie) as CEO of X.com, which was renamed PayPal in June 2001 and went public in 2002. PayPal's IPO listed under the ticker PYPL at $13 per share (Wiki)
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I've got to admit, as soon as I clicked on to...
Unreal wrote: Sat Feb 11, 2023 7:07 am Papal - Paypal
(the words are homophones)
...I closed my Paypal account. It makes sense to me that is exactly the link.
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Just on the point of the heliocentric versus geocentric, if the idea was to create a primary key so each individual record could be found at a later date, which of the two patterns is the most useful?

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And yet those who don't want there to be a God, a pattern is created that is pleasing to the eye. But the Geocentric pattern in the sky, I am reminded of the Tudor rose (and as an aside, where I got the idea for using the red rose as my icon identity).

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tudor_rose
TUDOR ROSE
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The Tudor rose (sometimes called the Union rose) is the traditional floral heraldic emblem of England and takes its name and origins from the House of Tudor, which united the House of Lancaster and the House of York. The Tudor rose consists of five white inner petals, representing the House of York, and five red outer petals to represent the House of Lancaster.

Origins
In the Battle of Bosworth Field (1485), Henry VII, of the House of Lancaster, took the crown of England from Richard III, of the House of York. He thus brought to an end the retrospectively dubbed "Wars of the Roses". Kings of the House of Lancaster had sometimes used a red or gold rose as a badge; and the House of York had used a white rose as a badge. Henry's father was Edmund Tudor, and his mother was Margaret Beaufort from the House of Lancaster; in January 1486 he married Elizabeth of York to bring the two factions together. (In battle, Richard III fought under the banner of the boar, and Harry under the banner of the dragon of his native Wales). The white rose versus red rose juxtaposition was mostly Henry's invention, created to exploit his appeal as a 'peacemaker king'. The historian Thomas Penn writes:
  • The "Lancastrin" red rose was an emblem that barely existed before Henry VII. Lancastrian kings used the rose sporadically, but when they did it was often gold rather than red; Henry VI, the king who presided over the country's descent into civil war, preferred his badge of the antelope. Contemparies certainly did not refer to the traumatic civil conflict of the 15th century as the "Wars of the Roses". For the best part of a quarter-century, from 1461 to 1485, there was only one royal rose, and it was white: the badge of Edward IV. The roses were actually created after the war by Henry VII.
On his marriage, Henry VII adopted the Tudor rose badge conjoining the White Rose of York and the Red Rose of Lancaster. The Tudor rose is occasionally seen divided in quarters (heraldically as "quartered") and vertically (in heraldic terms per pale) red and white. More often, the Tudor rose is depicted as a double rose, white on red and is always described, heraldically, as "proper" (that is, naturally-coloured, despite not actually existing in nature).
I don't think this is too much of a stretch.

The people who took control of the Papacy and Catholic Church saw within its scripture a way to totally control the masses. From that we get the Papacy performing its services in Latin and creating a diktat that anyone found with a copy of the Scriptures would be tried and burned at the stake as a heretic.

The Protestant Reformation started in Germany when on October 31, 1517, the monk Martin Luther, nailed his 95 Theses to the door of the castle church in Wittenberg; this was ninety-five proof on why Papal Indulgences were not Biblical. The nailing to the door was to create a PUBLIC NOTICE.

This is after the Battle of Bosworth Field, but never-the-less, this argument didn't start with Luther, a hundred years previous, John Huss was making the same and broader argument against the Church, this time in Prague. Huss was tried for heresy and burned at the stake on July 6, 1415.

I find fascinating parallels between Martin Luther's 95 proofs against Papal Indulgences and Eric Dubay's 200 Proofs that the Earth is Not a Spinning Ball.



And the parallels also between the Papal Indulgence System and the NWO Carbon Credit System, CC, 33, being setup around us. It is also interesting that the globe model, with its VIRUS-like worshipping of the sun's CORONA, has to concede the same spiralling shown above as a scrolled ribbon idea.

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And of course CORONA VIRUS = COVID-19.

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Lots of stuff I sent to Ab to look at.

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First in her series from 2 years ago:
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Another version of the historic discussion on calendar reform, from August 2007.

https://midiaglobalizada-blogspot-com.t ... r_sch=http
Calendar reform

The current calendar, reformulated by Pope Gregory in 1582, was being questioned more than 100 years ago;
It was mainly discussed the non-equity of the calendar. How can, for example, a commercial establishment, project its sales, say, from December 1954, with four Saturdays to December 1955, which has five?
How can a railroad project a cost budget for the next month or quarter if we now have 14 forms from February and 7 from each of the other eleven months?

At the same time, these adjustments are necessary and made, but they are expensive and take a lot of time;
Around 1834, an Italian priest, Abbot Marco Mastrofini presented an alternative calendar. This method was supported, in 1910, by the International Chamber of Commerce. This convinced the Swiss government to begin studies to reform the calendar, through the convening of a world conference. The first war was responsible for dissolving this initiative;
In 1923 the League of Nations (currently the UN) began examining 185 different calendar plans. Many of them were full of complicated artificialities; such as these two cases:

First: division of the year into 73 weeks of five days each. The days of the weeks would be called: ano, beno, ceno, deno, eno.
Second: a year of 20 months, with some weeks of six days, others of seven.

After selective scrutiny, the League chose two types of calendars:
a) the universal calendar of 12 months, equal quarters and;
b) one of 13 months, where the added month, designated Sol, would be inserted between June and July.

Around 1937, 14 League nations elected the universal calendar, leaving the other, or 13-month plan, without any vote.
However, things didn't go beyond that stage;
* In 1949, Panama attempted to include calendar reform on the United Nations agenda. This demonstration did not succeed, due to lack of support from the so-called great powers;
* In 1953, India proposed the universal calendar to the United Nations, with the following endorsements: France, Egypt and Uruguay.
The United States and Great Britain were defeated 12 to 2;
* In July 1954, even Soviet Russia became a supporter of the new calendar;
* Also in 1954, the Catholic Church expressed its willingness to collaborate with the United Nations in reforming the calendar.

The director of the Vatican Observatory justified that the deficiencies of the current calendar such as: months of unequal length, quarters varying from 90 to 92 days, the second semester being three days longer than the first, were not introduced by Pope Gregory but "inherited from pagan Rome";
The main obstacle to the universal calendar is apathy. However, the vast majority of people who learn the facts become enthusiastic about the proposed calendar.

In addition to its obvious advantages, we could have:
a) a tendency to reduce costs for everyone;
b) possibility of facilitating government planning and compliance with official records;
c) it would enable courts and educational establishments to schedule their periods on regular dates;
d) it would facilitate the household budget, since each month would have the same number of days;
e) holidays could be moved to make a dozen three-day weekends a year possible;

Last summer, the 18-nation Council unanimously passed a resolution asking all governments to examine calendar reform and present their views by about May 1955.
If the majority of governments prefer it, the General Assembly will be able to draft an international convention that will be submitted for ratification by the various governments.

The article ends more or less with the following message:
Today's international problems, the vast majority of them, with laws, decrees, technical data, etc., are so many and complex that a simple citizen of this planet cannot appear competent.
But we can all speak with authority about calendar reform. If we do this quickly, we can put an end to a chaotic situation.
Concluding this introduction, it was probably lucky that the calendar was not changed. Who knows if now, with the Internet, Globalization, and a little more study, we can effectively participate in this long-awaited reform.

Solar calendars
The solar calendar was first used by the Egyptians around 6000 years ago. In this count, the year had 12 months of 30 days each month, which made 360 ​​days. However, 5 more days were added at the end of the year to celebrate the birthdays of Osiris, Horus, Isis, Nephthys and Set, making the calendar total 365 days.
It should be noted that this precision of the Egyptian solar calendar 6000 years ago was only possible thanks to the country's geographical position, from where you can observe Sirius, which is the brightest star in the sky.
As a curiosity, it should be noted that the Egyptians noticed that the exact length of the year was 365 and 1/4 days, but they did not correct the calendar until 238 BC.

The Maya calendar and the calendar of the 13 Moons
The Calendar Traditional (indigenous) Maya maintains what is called the Long Count, the count of days (1,872,000) between 3113 BC and December 21, 2012.
The 13-moon calendar is based on one of the 17 Mayan calendars, the Tun Uk, and synchronizes with the 13:20 measure, tzolkin or harmonic module. But the 13 moon calendar is not one of the Mayan calendars. It is a universal calendar. For example, for more than 5500 years, the indigenous people of the Andes used a 13 moon/28 day calendar, as did the Druids of England, among others. It is because of its universality that calendar reformers themselves prefer it.
Finally, another important point. The 13 moon calendar takes as its New Year a day that corresponds to the 26th of July. In the past, for the Egyptians and Mayans, this day was celebrated because on this day the conjunction of the great star Sirius and the rising Sun took place. Therefore, this day refers to a cosmic fact by which the Calendar of the 13 moons that we use today is also an integral part of a new revelation of time called "Dreamspell". For this reason, we should not confuse it with the traditional Mayan Calendar, because the Calendar of the 13 moons aims to demonstrate the synchronic order of the 4th dimension, that is, a revelation of the Law of Time.

Who does it depend on to make the change?
“Of the people” - and then, the UN (or whatever government body exists at the time of the change). The UN and UNESCO have already received all the information on this subject of changing to the 13 moon calendar. The UN Secretary General, Kofi Anan, has already given his opinion that this was a good idea because it came from the will of the people.*

Baha'i calendar
The Baha'i calendar is a solar calendar with 365 days. The years are made up of 19 months of 19 days each, added to a period called "Intercalary Days" (there are 4 days, and 5 when it is a leap year), between the 18th and 19th month (February 26th to February 1st). March). The Year, in the Bahá'í calendar, begins on the autumnal equinox in the southern hemisphere on March 21st of the Gregorian calendar. The day begins and ends at sunset.
The Bahá'í Calendar was instituted by the Báb, later confirmed by Bahá'u'lláh. Each month has a specific name, symbolizing attributes of God.
Solar calendar is a calendar whose marking is based on the movements of the sun.

References:
Selections from Reader's Digest, José Argüelles, also known as Valum Votan, was born in the State of Minnesota, United States, and lived the first five years of his life in Mexico City, moving to California at the end of World War II.

And he will speak words against the Most High, and will destroy the saints of the Most High, and will take care to change the times and the law; and they will be delivered into his hand for a time, and times, and half a time. (Daniel 7: 25)
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