Masking up - research

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The SAGE committee minutes - with names often heavily redacted [why?] are online
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1ZbqHZC ... RVirE/view

Masks are mentioned a few times e.g.
Measures to limit spread
Meeting of Feb 4 2020

40. SAGE heard that NERVTAG advises that there is limited to no evidence of the benefits of the general public wearing facemasks as a preventative measure.
41. Facemasks and other personal protective equipment in the community is only advised for health and social care workers visiting individuals who may be infectious.
42. There is some evidence that wearing of face masks by symptomatic individuals may reduce transmission to other people, and therefore NERVTAG ** also recommends that symptomatic people should be encouraged to wear a surgical face mask, providing that it
can be tolerated.

https://www.gov.uk/government/groups/ne ... sory-group
** NERVTAG is an expert committee of the Department of Health (DH), and advises the Chief Medical Officer (CMO) and, through the CMO, to ministers, DH and other Government departments.

It provides scientific risk assessment and mitigation advice on the threat posed by new and emerging respiratory virus threats and on options for their management.

Neil Ferguson is a NERVTAG member.

There is no further mention of masks in SAGE minutes. A shady, mysterious "SAGE Secretariat" always has names redacted. These are no doubt the behavioural psychologists and perhaps also people of a more global character.

The above mask advice is after the alleged Wuhan experience. It is clear that current mask regulations are nothing to do with any virus or disease [alleged]

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NERVTAG was charged to research [from literature, not their own research] the long term effects of wearing face masks.
Presented Sept 15 2020, released to the public October 2 2020
https://assets.publishing.service.gov.u ... 170920.pdf

[this releates only to the wearing of them in streets, shops,on trains etc.]

SAGE has previously given advice that face coverings are [color]likely to be effective[/color] at reducing the emission
of respiratory droplets and aerosols containing virus into the environment.

It's BS, but let's continue - this has no doubt been commissioned for future mandating of masks in all outdoor settings.

There is increasing evidence about the efficacy of face coverings in reducing emission of droplets and aerosols which is likely to reduce the risk of transmission of SARS-CoV-2; this has previously been set
out in the DELVE paper and SAGE-EMG papers.

Actually asymptomatic transmission hasn't been proven. But here we go...

. In most settings extended duration of wearing is likely to have the greatest influence on reducing transmission risks relating to aerosol transmission; ]extended duration will reduce close range transmission for those activities that require prolonged close interaction wit
another person.

Policy makers have used the wearing of face masks as a measure to allow the 2 metre social distancing rule to be relaxed.

but the pavement and street closures and one way systems remain in place....

There is no good evidence that face coverings significantly impact on normal breathing or oxygen levels, although there are some studies that suggest a small effect during exercise.

Well, that was lucky. Perhaps we should have been born with some kind of flap over our faces in the first place?

Tolerability relating to comfort is likely to be the primary concern that will affect duration of wearing.

no, I think the absolute stupidity of it will be the major concern.

but, in conclusion...

There is a lack of good evidence relating to the wearing of face coverings, with very little data relating
to duration of wearing.

The research related to trying to knock down any good objection to them, on hygiene, discomfort, irritation grounds.

A whole academic industry and a tyranny based on the unproven theory of asymptomatic transmission.

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One of the best take-downs of the pseudo-science behind wearing masks is contained in this lecture by a M.D.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sjYvitCeMPc
SARS-CoV2 and the Rise of Medical Technocracy. Lee Merritt, M.D.
From DDP 38th Annual Meeting, August 16, 2020, Las Vegas, NV

However, Dr Merritt isn't going to challenge stories emerging in the media - like the reported wave of doctors dropping dead with Coronavirus at the start of the fake pandemic. She also believes that people were doing "face plants" in China [around 56:30] because she reckons 'you can't make an actor do that'. Hmmmm "They" say they died of "sudden cardiac failure" she says and surmises these Chinese 'victims' had been given a dose of a 'new coronavirus vaccine' beforehand.

@6:05

"but doctors died [rather than politicians] we lost probably conservatively 600 doctors and front line nurses when this thing first came out of China and moved into Lombardy"

DDP = Doctors for Disaster Preparedness. Hmmm - they would be right in the centre of disaster drills
https://www.ddponline.org/

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And an online source of references here from the same body, one which the above lecture was partly based
https://www.ddponline.org/2020/07/15/masking/#more-759

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It's great ^^^ to see Fauci telling us that wearing of masks is pointless.

Fast forward to September 23 2020, interviewed by the British Medical Journal
https://www.bmj.com/content/370/bmj.m3703

I have always said that we’ve got to be really, really committed to preventing infection and preventing disease—that’s why we talk about universal wearing of masks, avoiding crowds, keeping your distance, outdoor better than indoor, washing hands—and we need to do everything we can to get a vaccine so that we can get this thing under control, because it is not something to be taking in a trivial way at all.

No doubt he laughted heartily after this sentance, not transcribed.

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From the NEJM May 21 2020 [online April 1 2020]- face masks are of little use, talismans...giving health care workers "Confidence" rather than protection.
Universal masking in hospitals in the covid 19 era M. Klompas et al
https://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/nejmp2006372
On July 9 there was some back-pedalling, perhaps as a result of pressure from some quarter or other...

as if it were to push for more masking, lol!
https://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/NEJMc2020836

And here come the fact checkers....USA today who say the shared facebook screen shots of the article are "PARTLY TRUE" =i.e. the article DID appear in the esteemed journal, lol!

https://eu.usatoday.com/story/news/fact ... 454384002/
July 22 2020

However, the posts lack context. The authors of the referenced article say that the quoted statement referred to brief encounters ** in public places rather than sustained contact in close quarters. The authors say they support public health agencies' calls for all people to wear masks when they cannot keep 6 feet away from others for sustained periods of time.

Facemasks were not deemed useful in hospitals [where large numbers of sick people are found at close quarters] but for some reason they are supposed to be effective in public places with large numbers of perfectly healthy people. ROFL.

** another fact checker trick - ignore the original article being checked

We know that wearing a mask outside health care facilities offers little, if any, protection from infection. Public health authorities define a significant exposure to Covid-19 as face-to-face contact within 6 feet with a patient with symptomatic Covid-19 that is sustained for at least a few minutes (and some say more than 10 minutes or even 30 minutes). The chance of catching Covid-19 from a passing interaction in a public space is therefore minimal. In many cases, the desire for widespread masking is a reflexive reaction to anxiety over the pandemic.

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Wearing masks is of no use..... continued. Go to 8:18
March 4 2020
Sylvie Briane - Director, Global Infectious Hazard Preparedness at WHO or Director Infectious Hazard Management Pandemic and Epidemic Diseases Department

additional comments
there a need for balancing between protecting people and maintaining a normal life.
It's difficult to contain influenza. Influenza generates immunity. but for some reason covid-19 strategy is different.

The test only detects dead viruses because it's a specific test

@26:55
So viruses are living?????? because she says you can be re-infected with 'live' viruses....

hmmm
See seems to be quoting some unknown Chinese study here....

If you use the plasma of convalescent people and inject it into people who are sick it seemed that it helped them to recover. So it's very likely that we develop antibodies and these antibodies can protect others from the disease and probably protect ourselves from getting reinfected

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One I missed - from Dr Margaret Harris, of the WHO's coronavirus task force and has been continually stoking up fear all through this fake pandemic

[she is noted elsewhere as telling us that covid-19 is, conveniently, a round-the-year sickness. [like the common cold, no cure found ever....]

April 10 2020
https://www.npr.org/sections/goatsandso ... 7502373965

"The mask is almost like a talisman," says Harris of the WHO's coronavirus response team. "People feel more secure and protected."

The culture is different in Europe and the U.S., where people are less familiar with the idea of wearing a mask to protect others. People may think the face mask wearers they see want "to be protected from them," Harris says.

this was mirrored by the subsequent paper by Klompas et al [op cit]

The psychologists would have recommended a later time to impose them, after earlier universal advice that they were pointless, then followed on April 10 by the CDC recommending people make their own [to allow manufacturers to catch up with production of the cheap nasty non-medical products, and NOT to 'save the short supply from the "front-line" workers] which was the lie also mentioned by Harris above.

Among the reasons for reluctance on the part of some health agencies and places to urge mask wearing is the concern about the shortage of masks for medical workers. That's why the World Health Organization has stayed consistent in its recommendation.....not for the general public

Giving the "fact checkers" their open door to attack anyone who cites the original advice from health chiefs around the world

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The full clip from the "changing evidence" video compilation above... Jonathan Van Tam, the deputy chief medical officer who attended the Belgian "how to do a pandemic" presentation.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/av/uk-52153145
Coronavirus: 'We do not recommend face masks for general wearing'
April 3 2020

with the addendum

Update: This video contains advice that has since been updated - people across the UK now have to wear face coverings in certain circumstances when out of the house

There is no link to any compelling "evidence" for the change in policy.