As some background, I don't know if people are aware, but by international definition of religions which the Baha'i faith is the model framework, there is no group outside of their collective. I'm sure they consider Atheism a religion too. I suspect one of the points of Richard Dawkins was to give Atheism a religious characteristic, which then could be added to the collective alongside Wiccan, Satanism and Druidism. This would explain previous publicity stunts such as the Archbishop of Canterbury Rowan Williams v Richard Dawkins series of debates, and all the Christopher Hitchens v ... ones.
Richard Dawkins and Rowan Williams booked for Cambridge debate (BBC News, 27 January 2013)
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-c ... e-21220007
- Rowan Williams and Richard Dawkins, the Cambridge debate, January 2013
I like full length pictures, don't you... Richard Dawkins isn't a particularly tall man, is he? Small head compared to Rowan Williams too. But I'll leave that one right there... Also, If people didn't know, the former Archbishop of Canterbury Rowan Williams was also a druid.
Archbishop made honorary druid (BBC News, 5 August, 2002)
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/wales/2172408.stm
- The Gorsedd is a creative invention which first gathered at Primrose Hill, London, in 1792, and made its first eisteddfod appearance at Carmarthen in 1819, standing around a circle of stones.
But the above is actually an aside to what I intended to add. In looking up the Pentagram shape, I had it down as either Wiccan, which I know is now included as a bona fide religion you have to endure, along with Gaia worship, if you attend any United Nations conference, but it is also the symbol of Babism, the forerunner of the Baha'i faith.
Babism and the Persian Bayan, from my research, is a very important linchpin and enabler with regards to current hate speech laws and tolerance of the profane in every walk of life. I would suggest it is exactly where the current state of affairs come from. Rather than protecting law abiding citizens, it enables the outlawing of these people being able to speak out against utter depraved behaviour, government malfeasance, fabricated terror, and false witness to name but a few.
Wiki: Bab's writings - The Persian Bayan
rachel wrote: ↑Thu Jul 14, 2022 8:05 pm
The Persian Bayán was written near the end of 1847 or the beginning of 1848, while the Báb was imprisoned in Maku. The book contains elements of Bábí law, discussion of religious concepts, and the glorification of He whom God shall make manifest. It was one of the Báb's first works in which he clearly states that
he is the messianic figure of the Twelfth Imam and the Mahdi which the Shiʻas were expecting. With the claim, he also
claimed the abrogation of the Islamic dispensation, and uses the new Bábí law to abrogate Islamic law. The whole book also revolves around the praise of He whom God shall make manifest, promising the coming of a major prophet termed a Manifestation of God; this would be of major importance with Baháʼu'lláh's claim two decades later. Shoghi Effendi considered it a "eulogy of the Promised One", who had abrogated the laws of Islam, and prophesied about the coming of the Baháʼí Faith.
Unities and chapters
The book was intended to be composed of
nineteen 'unities' each of nineteen chapters, consisting of a total of 361 sections, which had numerical significance, but this was left incomplete and stops in the ninth 'unity'. It was intended to be finished by "He whom God shall make manifest", a messianic figure in the Báb's writings.
Baháʼís consider Baháʼu'lláh's Kitáb-i-Íqán as its completion.
Laws
Among the main themes of the Bayán are the mystic character of action,
the prohibition of causing grief to others, refinement, perfection and the spiritualization of life and language. Baháʼí scholar, Nader Saiedi states that
the severe laws of the Bayán were never meant to be put in practice, because their implementation depended on the appearance of He whom God shall make manifest, while at the same time all of the laws would be abrogated unless the Promised One would reaffirm them. Saiedi concludes that these can then only have a strategic and symbolic meaning, and were meant to break through traditions and to focus the Báb's followers on obedience to He whom God shall make manifest. The Báb stresses the importance of the recognition of the symbolic nature and spiritual meaning of each of his laws. In the Baháʼí view, Baháʼu'lláh is regarded as this Promised One. In his Kitab-i-Aqdas, Baháʼu'lláh cancelled specific laws of the Bayan, while confirming others.
It was a magic ritual the Bab performed, so it is interesting his symbol, like Wiccan, uses the pentagram. But his is different, and it dawned on me, we see his symbol, in part, everywhere.
- Babism religious symbol
- Star Trek communicator
I always concluded Communism won in the Star Trek universe. Anyway, this is a more in depth description of the magic ritual he performed, which Wiki tells us about above.
rachel wrote: ↑Sat Jul 16, 2022 10:26 am
To better understand the spiritual origin of the UN we need to go back to the year
1844 in Persia (now Iran). It was at this time that the young - Siyyid Ali Mohamad (1819-1850) only 25 years old announced that he was the Q'aim (the one who stands up). And from then on he became
known as the Báb (The Door) [else 'The Gate'; remember Shoghi Effendi, Guardian of the Baha'i faith, is buried in New Southgate Cemetery, London]. For the Shias, he should be the one who precedes the hidden Imam. But the Shias directly await the revelation of this Imam, for this reason and for having annulled the laws of the Qur'an, the Báb was imprisoned in several places, being finally shot in Tabríz, in 1850, by a platoon of 750 soldiers. After his death, more than 20,000 of his followers were martyred, but this was unable to stop the expansion and evolution of Babism.
For us true Christians, he is the seventh king of the book of Revelation (the one that should last a little while) and who precedes the eighth king (Rev 17:11):
- And there are seven kings: five are fallen, and one is, and the other is not yet come; and when he cometh, he must continue a short space. And the beast that was, and is not, even he is the eighth, and is of the seven, and goeth into perdition. (Revelation 17:10-11)
Below is a summary of the Báb's main achievements for the new world order:
1) Understand how the Báb nullified:
- the Qur'an
In December 1844, the Báb left for Mecca, where Ramadan prayers are said; and performed a very different ritual. He killed nine animals in his name. The death of 9 animals represents the unification of the nine major religions. After this sacrifice he circled the Kaaba. This circle represents the submission of Islam to the Babism that was the religion created by it. The circular shape in the Kaaba and the death of the animals created an object which is a nine-pointed star. And so the Sign and the number 9 were enshrined in the new world order. And now all that was needed was the revelation of the name of the hidden magnet number 12 to start the new world economy (AP 13:17).
- the Bible
As we know, the number that represents the Lord Jesus is seven (Revelation 1:12). The Báb considered himself the last manifestation of Christ. Before the sacrifice, he considered himself governed by the number 7. That is, 1 (a demonstrator of GOD) / 7 (a supposed Christian or the seven turns in the Kaaba). If we divide this number (1/7) we get the PI that represents the circular turn he made in the Kaaba: 0.142857. As he nullified the teachings of the Lord Jesus he performed the reverse operation which is multiplication. If we multiply 0.142857 by 7 we have: 0.999999 which is the sacred number of the new order. And now he could interpret the Bible and the Quran as he pleased, for he received spiritual power from satan to begin his work.