Flight 93 Crash in Shanksville

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A better view of the damaged trees. I'm still of the opinion the object hit the trees last.

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If we look at the trees to the right, we have some indication of what the area looked like prior to the damage. We can see a number of branches sheared off in a line, and from the branches that were not completely snapped through it is clear that the impact originated from the direction of the field.

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So this confirms the plane hit the ground first then part or all of it spun into the trees breaking the branches. The debris was then removed before any filming was allowed. That would suggest the damage was such it made it easy to pick up and remove the plane. The other possibility is, behind those broken branches and smoke is a camouflaged object.

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Another interesting photo, we see better why that shadow triangle shape was formed in the original video.

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Again, I'm not saying this is it, this is not forensic research, it's entirely speculation based on pictures. The above picture gives us an idea of size compared to people. And next we have an interesting tail of a Delta Dagger crashing, note the 'little damage' part, and that it could be disassembled for ground transport.

Convair F-102 Delta Dagger & F-106 Delta Dart
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In one of the more bizarre stories about the F-106 ... on 2 February 1970, four F-106As flew out of Malmstrom AFB, Montana, to "mix it up" among themselves as an air combat training exercise; one Dart had to abort when its drag chute opened before take-off. During the resulting sequence of dogfights, one of the F-106As, piloted by First Lieutenant Gary Foust, went into a flat spin at altitude, and it wasn't easy to get the Dart out of a flat spin. Foust stayed with the machine, trying everything he could, but finally decided he was getting too low and ejected.

However, the ejection knocked the F-106 out of the spin, and it took off towards the horizon. Major Jim Lowe, who had been following Foust in one of the other two Darts and giving him suggestions, had to shout out: "Gary, you better get back in it!"

Of course, even though Montana contains a great deal of uninhabited land, it was worrisome to think about where the aircraft might come down. However, Foust had set the machine to take-off trim in one of his attempts to get it out of the spin, and take-off trim was similar to landing trim. It descended gradually and performed a very neat belly landing in a snow-covered field near the town of Big Sandy, missing a rockpile before it slid to a halt. A local law enforcement officer called Malmstrom and asked how to turn off its turbojet engine; he was told to just let it run out of fuel, which it did less than two hours later.

The F-106 had an ugly gash in its belly, but otherwise was structurally intact. The aircraft was disassembled, trucked to a railroad flatcar, and sent to California to be repaired and reassembled. It went back into operation, and in fact was one of the last Darts in ADC service. It is now on display at the USAF Museum at Wright-Patterson Air Force Base in Ohio.

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Although much was made of the whizzy SAGE system, which supposedly could perform highly automated intercepts, pilots who flew the F-106 said it was highly unreliable, and they generally ended up performing intercepts under voice directions from ground controllers. SAGE was still often used, but it was on the basis of experimental evaluation, the belief being that the technology needed to be made right eventually.

One F-106 pilot commented later that he had heard Soviet aircrews were terrified of the Genie nuclear-tipped missile. He couldn't confirm that, but added that: "WE sure were!" The weapon never having been used in action, there were doubts that the launch platform could get out of the blast radius. No doubt if the pilots were told: "Don't worry about it!" -- such a display of complacency made them worry all the more.

I don't know, the idea of the U.S. Airforce shooting missiles into the World Trade Centre with no civilian warning prior to the event is frankly more terrifying than muslim terrorists flying highjacked planes into them.

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It's possible the fire was created after the event to make the crash area look bigger. From those shapes, we could imagine the plane flipping over twice, ending facing forward slightly off to the side of its original path.

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The damage at the scene is not consistent with the aircraft. The hole was too small to be caused by a Boeing 757. The wingspan of a Boeing 757 is 124ft, yet the hole at the scene was only 30-40ft in length and 20ft in depth. How can an aircraft so large cause a hole so small? The only explanation is that it was not a Boeing 757 that made the hole. As well as this, there was little to no fire damage at the scene of the crash. When the planes crashed into the Twin Towers, they caused fires which caused the whole building to collapse, yet in a field with dry grass, there was only a small amount of scorching. The fires in New York spread to buildings that weren't even within a very close proximity, yet a plane crashes head first into a field and the surrounding areas are completely untouched. This seems highly suspicious and brings about the theory of it being completely staged or fake.

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There are parts I like about the theory in this thread and parts that are clearly a mismatch. Looking at other plane crash wreckage, it becomes clear that a plane versus the ground, the ground always wins. I can find nothing that matches the carved shapes we see in the above images. And if we are saying there was very little damage to the plane so it could be quickly disassemble and removed from the scene, what made the scoring marks and why even report it as a plane crash. But if it was a substantial crash with a fireball, then it would have been impossible to clear the wreckage quickly and there would be more evidence of a plane.

So keeping with the theory it was a military jet that could be disassemble for road transport, we see in the previous F-106 Delta Dart crash landing that produced little damage to the actual plane, law enforcement could not turn off the turbojet engine and instead it carried on burning until it run out of fuel. If we assume the back end of the plane ends up facing into the trees and its engine is running, might that be the reason for the fire in the trees, and the reason for needing to report the event? I seem to remember Flight 93 was reported missing for hours before it was confirmed it had crashed in Shanksville.

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Above, it says "the hole at the scene was only 30-40ft in length and 20ft in depth", looking at spec for the delta dart it is roughly twice that at 70ft long. If the plane ended up on its belly like the crash picture, might the symmetrical scores we see in the ground have instead been made by a pincer type lifting equipment or a tool that could create channels below the plane so the underside could be clamped?

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For comparison, the longest HGVs are around 54ft. We imagine disassembly would include removing the wings, the nose and the tail section. After this, two channels are cut in order to get the lifting equipment under the plane. I've put some lines on the next image trying to visualise how the plane might have been lying and where a removal vehicle might park in order to extend an arm and lift the plane, basing it on the marks seen on the ground in the previous pictures.

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Clearly, if such a thing happened, it was specialised military equipment used. But it is interesting to see a fire service lifting vehicle for comparison.
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I've added a little more in the way of visible road activity.

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The yellow being some of the more prominent road markings denoting vehicles/equipment we can assume. The blue area indicating something has been dragged on the ground, the plane's body was originally here we assume. The pink looks like a fuel leak and scorching of the ground and comes from the back side of the blue shape. Directly behind the blue shape we have blackening of the trees, the turbojet engine of a military jet plane running we assume. Next to it, looking at the damage in the trees, it doesn't logically connect to the burning behind the blue shape, and it is a very definite "V". The lines are absolutely straight and have a particular angle, so my feeling, that V shaped fire was set after the object had been removed.

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It reminds me of this...

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This is the high resolution picture I found which I used to outline the shapes and assign them meaning, others might see something different.

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It gets more interesting... In looking for a wider map to see if I could match land features to see if that V shape points anywhere, see Valujet 592 memorial ); I found a wider aspect of that above image, and guess what, where the blue shape I drew over what looked to be something dragged, it joins up with a line of around the same width shown below. A plane sliding across the ground on its belly, landing gears up, maybe?

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Just as a reminding us...
During the resulting sequence of dogfights, one of the F-106As, piloted by First Lieutenant Gary Foust, went into a flat spin at altitude, and it wasn't easy to get the Dart out of a flat spin. Foust stayed with the machine, trying everything he could, but finally decided he was getting too low and ejected.

However, the ejection knocked the F-106 out of the spin, and it took off towards the horizon...

...Foust had set the machine to take-off trim in one of his attempts to get it out of the spin, and take-off trim was similar to landing trim. It descended gradually and performed a very neat belly landing in a snow-covered field near the town of Big Sandy, missing a rockpile before it slid to a halt. A local law enforcement officer called Malmstrom and asked how to turn off its turbojet engine; he was told to just let it run out of fuel, which it did less than two hours later.

The F-106 had an ugly gash in its belly, but otherwise was structurally intact. The aircraft was disassembled, trucked to a railroad flatcar, and sent to California to be repaired and reassembled. It went back into operation, and in fact was one of the last Darts in ADC service. It is now on display at the USAF Museum at Wright-Patterson Air Force Base in Ohio.

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Here's the picture without my markings. Decide for yourself.

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Again speculation, but my theory predicts the plane should have spun a half turn to a holt. I'm looking for some indication this is the case. So let's start with an example to get the dynamics. The difference with the car, we have a man steering trying to regain control.

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We imagine the pilot ejected and the plane was set in a mode that meant it "performed a very neat belly landing". We would expect the plane to slide in a straight line to a holt unless ground features forced a change in direction.

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As the car's front starts turning in its slide changes direction. If we look at the photo of the yellow plane path we see it also changes direction to where we would expect it to travel. If we look at the ground, there does seem to be a ridge at the point the yellow path diverges from the predicted orange one. It's hard to know, but the arrows point to scuffing that might indicate the object did indeed turn in the same way as the car example above.

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The same picture without the lines and enhanced a little.
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Now for an interesting thing about the Flight 93 Crash, as of 2020 there is a permanent memorial at the crash site, Tower of Voices.

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Overview
The Tower of Voices serves as both a visual and audible reminder of the heroism of the forty passengers and crew of United Flight 93. On September 09, 2018 Flight 93 National Memorial hosted a dedication event to complete the final phase of construction and complete the permanent memorial. The chimes were installed and dedicated on September 10, 2020.

The tower is conceived as a monumental, ninety-three feet tall musical instrument holding forty wind chimes, representing the forty passengers and crew members. It is intended to be a landmark feature near the memorial entrance, visible from US Route 30/Lincoln Highway. The Tower of Voices provides a living memorial in sound to remember the forty through their ongoing voices.

The tower project was constructed from 2017 to 2018 with a dedication of the project on September 9, 2018. Funding for the design and construction of the project was provided through private donations to the National Park Foundation and the Friends of Flight 93 National Memorial.

Uniqueness of Design
There are no other chime structures like this in the world. The shape and orientation of the tower are designed to optimize air flow through the tower walls to reach the interior chime chamber. The chime system is designed using music theory to identify a mathematically developed range of frequencies needed to produce a distinct musical note associated with each chime. The applied music theory allows the sound produced by individual chimes to be musically compatible with the sound produced by the other chimes in the tower. The intent is to create a set of forty tones (voices) that can connote through consonance the serenity and nobility of the site while also through dissonance recalling the event that consecrated the site.

Design Features
The tower is approximately ninety-three feet tall from the base to the top with some height variations. The Tower cross section is a “C” shape with a fifteen foot outside diameter and eleven foot inside diameter. The “C” shape allows sound to reflect outwardly from the open side in a fan-shaped pattern. The chimes will be suspended a minimum of twenty feet above the main plaza and will be suspended from the interior walls of the tower up to the top.

The tower walls will be constructed of precast concrete segments linked by connectors. The chimes will be constructed of polished aluminum tubes ranging eight to sixteen inches in diameter and approximately five to ten feet in length. The size of each chime is dependent on the musical note and associated frequency that it is intended to produce. Chimes of this size and magnitude do not currently exist in the world. The chimes are wind activated and will have internal strikers attached to sails projecting from the bottom of each chime.

Surrounding Landscape
The tower is located on an oval concrete plaza that is built on top of an earth mound to create an area more prominent on the landscape. The plaza includes two curved concrete benches facing the opening of the tower.

The tower is surrounded by concentric rings of white pines and deciduous plantings. The concentric plantings may be interpreted as resonating “sound waves” from the Tower, alluding to the auditory qualities of the chimes housed within. A direct paved path leads to the tower from the parking lot. A longer, meandering crushed stone path winds through the trees and allows visitors an alternative approach to the tower. All other landscaped areas of the project will be planted with a native wildflower seed mix similar to other landscaped areas of the park.

There is so much in that text. The first thing I've so far not mentioned is the flight number of 93. Many who have some understanding of sacred numbers will see 63 in a "terror event" and read it as denoting 6x3 = 666. The exact same is true for 93. 9x3 = 999, but most will not be as clear why this is the case. I now think 999 is the real marker for the beast system, 666 being the false dichotomy number, I'll return to that in a later post. So we have FLIGHT 999.

"On September 09, 2018 Flight 93 National Memorial hosted a dedication event to complete the final phase of construction and complete the permanent memorial." - 9/9/18 or 999 and a 2 = 11. DATE 999.

"The chimes were installed and dedicated on September 10, 2020." - we have 91 or 19. See The Number Nineteen thread and why 1, 9 and 19 are linked in the occult. AI = 19.
rachel wrote: Wed Jun 01, 2022 5:14 pmFor a long time, the Code 19 has been a part of scholarly discussions among Muslims and others. Due to his particular perspective, Dr Khalifa translates the meaning of the verse as, “Over it is nineteen” while differing from others in the use of the word ‘is’ instead of ‘are’. He takes it as a mention of a figure rather than the numbers of anything. Some other commentators also understand it to be ‘is’ as it refers to the fire mentioned in the previous verses rather than being 19 presumed keepers of Hell. Fakhr-ad-Din al-Razi, in his classic commentary offered many speculations, including that the number nineteen indicates the nineteen intellectual faculties of human beings rather than taking it be a mention of 19 angels as keepers of the Hell. Hence, the popular understanding that the verse is telling about 19 guardian angels of Hell may not be the only explanation of the word ‘Nineteen’.
"The tower is conceived as a monumental, ninety-three feet tall musical instrument holding forty wind chimes." - I'm not sure about the 40, it references the 40 days Jesus spend in the wilderness before the devil's temptation and the 40 days Jesus spent with the disciples after the Resurrection but before his ascension into heaven. It's more likely to be the former the occult use, generally they put their stall out before the Cross, that's why we have the whole Marian worship cult. 93 foot, another encoded 999, and then we have the wind chimes which create sound when air passes through them.

Understanding the AIR reference:
rachel wrote: Mon May 09, 2022 11:40 amThe Air has two meanings in Greek, Ether and Aer, Lucifer is the 'GOD OF THE AER' (air, below the ether unto the ground), not of the ETHER (the upper regions of air beyond the clouds). Do you see where I'm going with this?


Another reference to Lucifer in the form of wind instruments and the NUMBER 9, in the United Nations thread.
rachel wrote: Sat Jul 16, 2022 10:26 am“You were the seal of perfection,
Full of wisdom and perfect in beauty.
You were in Eden, the garden of God;
Every precious stone was your covering:
The sardius, topaz, and diamond,
Beryl, onyx, and jasper,
Sapphire, turquoise, and emerald with gold.
The workmanship of your timbrels and pipes
Was prepared for you on the day you were created.


“You were the anointed cherub who covers;
I established you;
You were on the holy mountain of God;
You walked back and forth in the midst of fiery stones.
You were perfect in your ways from the day you were created,
Till iniquity was found in you.

We have the Pied Piper, who led all the children away. Think about that and the infant sex education western governments are now pouring into schools.

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And the Greek god, Pan, from with we get;- PANSEXUAL, PANIC, PANDEMONIUM, PANDEMIC.

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I'll continue with another aspect in the next post.
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Now when I was looking through the pictures of the design I noticed something.

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Are you seeing it? Here's a better look at the 2005 plan.

A detail of the memorial design that was chosen in 2005
A detail of the memorial design that was chosen in 2005

And here's a clue to what I'm seeing in that design.

One of 19 cascading terraces at the Shine of the Bab
One of 19 cascading terraces at the Shine of the Bab

And not only the shape, but the type of construction and the materials used, it's "constructed of precast concrete segments linked by connectors". Here is an example of what I'm talking about. There is one thing I did notice that does lead me to wonder if the pilot actually died there, though it might be just flipping a failure in the original plan into a win for team New-World-Order.
The intent is to create a set of forty tones (voices) that can connote through consonance the serenity and nobility of the site while also through dissonance recalling the event that consecrated the site.

Granted the person who wrote this probably has no other thought than forty people died that day in that field. But what we can be confident of, whatever happened to the 40 names on that plane list, it didn't happen in this location. We can go back to the report I kicked off this thread with to be pretty confident of that.
...There is a lot of conclusive evidence that would help to prove this theory such as the fact the damage at the scene is not severe enough to be caused by a crash as extreme as the alleged Flight 93 crashing into a field, as well as the interesting information about the debris, and lack of debris, at the scene. One of the most major points that brings back suspicions that the whole attack being a hoax is reports of the same aircraft being in the air in another vicinity, after the supposed crash was reported.

Wallace Miller was the coroner at the scene of the crash, and he found it "eerie" that there was not a single drop of blood to be seen. There was also no independent source that identified clear remains of any of the passengers. This is extremely hard to comprehend, as the crash site was a clear, open field.

The term "consecrated" if you know anything about Catholicism, usually means 'bones of a dead saint' have been interred there, that's how Catholicism consecrates a place. And we can follow that through that Baha'is hold the exact same standard only magnified seven times, nay-seventy-times-seven-times, with the shrines of the Bab, Baha'u'llah and the current construction of the Shrine of Abdu’l-Baha.

Saying that, having previously looked at Shoghi Effendi's death in London, everything about that points to it being a staged event where the perpetrators used a rotting corpse that had died from "Spanish flu" to fill the grave in his place. So, they may have buried sacred bones at Shanksville in keeping with the religion, but they don't necessarily have to have anything to do with the story of the site.
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