So when do you think the Queen really died?

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I keep hearing 2018 but am not sure what the basis of that is.
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I think the state opening of parliament would be hard to fake, and all of these appear to be the Queen.

June 2017:
LIVE: State Opening of Parliament, The Queen's speech- BBC NEWS


October 2019:
Queen's Speech 2019 to open parliamentary year FULL


December 2019 (after election):
State Opening of Parliament and the Queen's Speech - December 2019


May 2021:
State Opening of Parliament 2021 | House of Lords



May 2022, Prince Charles took the queen's place, it is said because she couldn't tackle the steps.

Queen’s Speech 2022 in full: Prince Charles opens Parliament for first time
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You know King George V was euthanised.

1936 SECRET IS OUT: DOCTOR SPED GEORGE V'S DEATH
https://www.nytimes.com/1986/11/28/worl ... death.html
As he lay comatose on his deathbed in 1936, King George V was injected with fatal doses of morphine and cocaine to assure him a painless death in time, according to his physician's notes, for the announcement to be carried ''in the morning papers rather than the less appropriate evening journals.''

The fact that the death of a reigning monarch had been medically hastened remained a secret for half a century until the publication today of the notes made at the time by Lord Dawson, the royal physician who recorded that he administered the two injections at about 11 o'clock on the night of Jan. 20, 1936. That was scarcely an hour and a half after Lord Dawson had written a classically brief medical bulletin that declared, ''The King's life is moving peacefully toward its close.''

That ''close'' came in less than an hour after the injections. Lord Dawson, according to his notes, had already taken the precaution of phoning his wife in London to ask that she ''advise The Times to hold back publication.''

In Windsor Castle Archives

''A Peaceful Ending at Midnight,'' said the headline the next morning in the newspaper that was deemed to be the most appropriate vehicle for major announcements to the nation.

The Dawson notes, now preserved in the archives of Windsor Castle, were first examined by the physician's biographer, Francis Watson, when he prepared a volume that appeared in 1950, five years after Lord Dawson's death. At the request of the physician's widow, the biographer said today, he simply omitted any reference to the euthanasia that had taken place at Sandringham Castle.

It was Mr. Watson, now 79 years old, who filled in the omission in an article in a journal called History Today that went on sale here this morning. ''Perhaps I should have included it in the book at the time,'' he said. ''Lady Dawson did not want it in the book and I quite readily agreed. I didn't think it appropriate.'' Queen's Reaction Not Known
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The State Openings of Parliament were easy to fake, and indeed they were. Countless hallmarks for that. Likewise the Balcony Shots at Buck Palace of HMQEII and the rest of The Firm.

Recall the Huuuuge hat-tip in 2020 of the Deep Fake QEII. Using chroma-key video layering, CGI and augmented reality, in the "Channel 4 Alternative Christmas Message for 2020 from HM QEII".

https://www.channel4.com/press/news/dee ... as-message
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A juicy piece of fake footage to scrutinise is from the Thanksgiving Service for HRH Duke of Edinburgh, held, apparently, on 29 March 2022 at Wesminster Abbey, and attended, apparently, by HMQEII and most of the Winza Tribe.



Literally littered with video anomalies. Very suspicious camera angles, inexplicable panning and abrupt cutting, and HMQEII -- or, more precisely, the actress stand-in double on whose head a digital effigy of the Queen is superimposed -- was deliberately seated far from the nave, and seemingly ordered to keep her head bowed down for most of the service.

Though the plausibility 'issues' began from the beginning. Viewers were subjected to a full half hour of footage showing the arrivals at the Abbey of every other goddamn Winza, but not the Queen herself? The entire media troupe somehow missed the most important money-shot of the day?! LOL!

Watch again: Royal Family arrives at Prince Philip’s memorial service
1,011,452 views 29 Mar 2022

Senior members of the Royal family and other invited guests arrived at Westminster Abbey for Prince Philip's memorial.

0:24 Priti Patel, Secretary of State for the Home Department
2:19 Brandon Lewis, Secretary of State for Northern Ireland
2:30 Liz Truss, the Foreign Secretary
9:18 Prime Minister Boris Johnson
11:07 Lord Mayor of Westminster Andrew Smith and Lady Mayoress Salma Shah

15:30 Princess Margareta, Custodian of the Romanian Crown (first cousin twice removed to The Prince Phillip through Christian IX of Denmark) and Prince Radu, The Prince Consort of Romania
15:53 Alexander, Crown Prince of Serbia (first cousin twice removed) and Katherine, Crown Princess of Serbia
16:03 King Carl XVI Gustaf of Sweden (third cousin) and Queen Silvia of Sweden
16:05 Princess Christina of Sweden, Mrs. Magnuson (third cousin)
16:07 Queen Margrethe II of Denmark (second cousin once removed)
16:12 King Philippe of the Belgians (second cousin twice removed to Prince Phillip through Christian IX of Denmark) and Queen Matilde of the Belgians
16:21 King Willem-Alexander (sixth cousin three times removed) and Queen Maxima of the Netherlands, and Princess Beatrix of the Netherlands (sixth cousin twice removed)
16:22 Queen Anne-Marie of the Hellenes (second cousin once removed), Crown Prince Pavlos (second cousin twice removed) and Crown Princess Marie-Chantal of Greece
16:24 Prince Philippos and Princess Nina of Greece and Denmark, the Duke's first cousin twice removed and godson and his wife
16:23 Prince Hassan and Princess Sarvath of Jordan
16:29 King Felipe (first cousin twice removed) and Queen Letizia of Spain, Prince Albert II of Monaco (seventh cousin twice removed)
16:43 Kyril, Prince of Preslav, Prince of Bulgaria, Prince of Saxe-Coburg and Gotha (fifth cousin through Francis, Duke of Saxe-Coburg-Saalfeld)

18:58 Peter Phillips, Prince Phillip's grandson and Savannah Phillips, Prince Phillip's great-granddaughter and Isla Phillips, Prince Phillip's great-granddaughter
19:09 Zara and Michael Tindall, Prince Phillip's granddaughter and grandson-in-law and Mia Tindall, Prince Phillip's great-granddaughter-in-law
19:14 George Windsor, The Earl of St. Andrews, Prince Phillip's first cousin twice removed
19:17 James and Julia Ogilvy, Prince Phillip's first cousin twice removed and his wife
19:18 Zenouska Mowatt, Prince Phillip's first cousin three times removed
19:19 Lord Nicholas Windsor, Prince Phillip's first cousin twice removed
19:21 Flora and Timothy Vesterberg, Prince Phillip's first cousin three times removed and her husband
19:24 Lady Rose and George Gilman, Prince Phillip’s second cousin twice removed and her husband
19:26 Alexander Windsor, The Earl of Ulster, Prince Phillip’s second cousin twice removed
19:29 Lady Sarah Chatto (enters at 20:20), Prince Phillip's niece and Princess Margaret's daughter
19:33 Lady Gabriella and Thomas Kingston, Prince Phillip's first cousin twice removed and her husband
19:47 Lord Frederick Windsor, Prince Phillip's first cousin twice removed and Lady Frederick Windsor

19:56 Cassius Taylor, Prince Phillip's first cousin three times removed and Lady Helen Taylor, Prince Phillip's first cousin twice removed
19:58 Edward Windsor, Lord Downpatrick, Prince Phillip's first cousin three times removed
20:20 Lady Sarah and Daniel Chatto, Prince Phillip's niece and nephew-in-law and Samuel Chatto, Prince Phillip's grandnephew and Arthur Chatto, Prince Phillip's grandnephew
20:05 David Armstrong-Jones, The Earl of Snowdon, Prince Phillip's nephew and Charles Armstrong-Jones, Viscount Linley, Prince Phillip's grandnephew and Lady Margarita Armstrong-Jones, Prince Phillip's grandniece

23:52 The Princess Anne, The Princess Royal and Vice Admiral Sir Timothy Laurence, Prince Phillip's daughter and son-in-law
24:33 Princess Beatrice and Edoardo Mapelli Mozzi, Prince Phillip's granddaughter and grandson-in-law
24:37 Princess Eugenie and Jack Brooksbank, Prince Phillip's granddaughter and grandson-in-law
25:57 Prince Richard, The Duke and Duchess of Gloucester, Prince Phillip's second cousin once removed and his wife

26:19 Prince Edward, The Duke of Kent, Prince Phillip's first cousin once removed and The Countess of St. Andrews
26:39 Prince and Princess Michael of Kent, Prince Phillip's first cousin once removed and his wife

28:42 The Prince Edward, The Earl and Countess of Wessex, Prince Phillip's son and daughter-in-law and Lady Louise Mountbatten-Windsor, Prince Phillip's granddaughter and Viscount Severn, Prince Phillip's grandson

33:15 The Prince Charles, The Prince of Wales and The Duchess of Cornwall, Prince Phillip's son and daughter-in-law
35:15 Prince William, The Duke and Duchess of Cambridge, Prince Phillip's grandson and granddaughter-in-law and Prince George of Cambridge, Prince Phillip's great-grandson and Princess Charlotte of Cambridge, Prince Phillip's great-granddaughter
..

The Queen came in [secretly!] through a side entrance and was escorted by the Duke of York.
LOL!

The (fake) Queen's arrival outside, and her transition into the Abbey was just too complex to fake in a credible way, so the lame royle videographers didn't even attempt it?!
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rachel wrote: Wed Sep 21, 2022 7:41 am You know King George V was euthanised.
As he lay comatose on his deathbed in 1936, King George V was injected with fatal doses of morphine and cocaine to assure him a painless death in time, according to his physician's notes, for the announcement to be carried ''in the morning papers rather than the less appropriate evening journals.''
Hmm... another side-hoax? Why kill the King? What gain? Let him die naturally in his own good time?

Just maybe he croaked days, weeks, months or even years before it was officially announced??

Either way, simply keep the Royal Corpse 'on ice' until expedient to officially announce His Majesty's passing?

Who's to know otherwise outside the close circle of winza flunkeys? In the 'final hours' they simply gather around his (fake) deathbed in readiness for The Announcement ("to be carried in the morning papers")

This stuff is timeworn theatrics.

In the Soviet Union it was common speculation that Brezhnev had died some years* before the Kremlin made it official!
Up until then, they just recycled old photos of the ever-stiffer Dear Leader in the commie propaganda outlets like Pravda.

Though asute observers were widely noting the same headshots of Brezhnev being reused again and again. Using old-school cut-and-paste. Placing him in new contemporary settings, to keep him 'alive' artificially.

* Soviet historian Roy Medvedev perhaps gave us an insider's tip-off that Brezhnev died SIX YEARS before it was official!
MOSCOW (AP) _ Leonid Brezhnev was revived from clinical death in 1976, but was left so senile and weakened he had difficulty performing simple tasks the last six years of his rule, a Soviet historian says.
https://apnews.com/article/31783fd6ba9c ... 2ad5bab8d2
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Regarding King George's death, it might be a story, but there seems little point in it coming out the way it did. I think it was some time in the late eighties/early nineties after a death of someone related to the doctor, a buyer of estate documents making public the private entries in a diary, something like that. Reading one of the longer pieces on it, it was Prince Edward who was said to have told the doctor to sort it. Whether the doctor misinterpreted what he had said is unclear, but on the king's death Prince Edward became King Edward VIII. There comes a point where allegiances switch, where it is better to serve the person that is about to become king than the one who is about to stop being king. And we shouldn't lose the context either with the whole CORONA VIRUS, death by injection.

While we do not know for sure if this diary entry is true, the point at which it became widely known I don't think played into any particular agenda other than it being after Edward and Wallis were dead. We know that King Edward VIII was never crowned king and instead abdicated. Do we believe it was really because of marrying the divorcee Wallis Simpson? Maybe in part it was, or maybe the circumstance of George V's death is a better fit. A person who is prepared to give an order to kill his father is probably not a person many people would want to have as king? This might be the real reason there was a refusal to serve him, in that case Wallis was the excuse given to us for him stepping down.

If we take the reason as being Wallis' previous marriage, then by the same standard King Charles should equally not be king as he also married a divorcee. This should disqualify him, but is anyone saying that? Nope, which suggests it probably really wasn't about who he wanted to marry, it was about his character. Reign, 20 January – 11 December 1936.

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With regards to when the Queen died, I have mixed thoughts. My feeling, the following report was put out to hide Prince Philip's death or a terminal stroke. Once Prince Philip was incapacitated, the Queen was in a precarious position. As they all buy into the Freemasonry hierarchy, logic tells us it was really Prince Philip who held the power, and once he was incapacitated, that power passed the Charles, but clearly the Queen remained as the front while things were sorted in the background.

Prince Philip unhurt in crash while driving
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-46912691

The crash was on 17 January 2019, around 3:30 PM.
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Hmm.

The Winza Crime Family (WCF) has a long history of faking their own deaths; salaciously dressing them up as murders, assassinations, tragic accidents, suicides, and heroic acts of self-sacrifice in the horrors of war.

In practice, the Winza dullards tend to snuff it from all the usual reasons: overindulgence, drink, drugs, STDs, and old age.

Prince Charles' favourite uncle Dickie was no exception. Lord Louis "Dickie" Battenberg had been last Viceroy of India, statesman and diplomat (wikipedia).

But aged 79, Dickie went off with a terrific bang. Brutally assassinated. Blown up by an I.R.A. bomb with two young boys (ahem) aboard his yacht off the coast of Ireland.

Or so the story goes.

Dickie Battenberg was a classic Royal Death From Natural Causes, sexed-up into a stage drama for ultimate political traction.

It was the 1970s, height of the "IRA Bombings"; a campaign of false-flag terror waged on soft mainland targets, to scare the Brits shitless.

Presenting here was an optimal opportunity to galvanize the ongoing British occupation of Ireland, by sacrificing an ancient British royal on the altar of fake Fenian terrorism.

Dickie's phony assassination created a helpful wave of public indignation and royal fawning. Plus the pretext for cranking up the police state in the psywar petri dish that was the Irish province of Ulster. Fulfulling the final wishes of DIckie the old warlord himself.

Of course, there's nothing to gain from literally murdering Dickie just to drive that fanciful narrative.
Much kinder to bide one's time and wait patiently for the aging aristo to see out his days naturally.
Though when the Good Lord does take him -- substitute his peaceful passing with the pre-written horror script of "an IRA bomb" psyop, to play out through the meeja.

The rest is history.

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psyopticon wrote: Sun Oct 09, 2022 5:48 am

htt ps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-Mgi7Hibn-k

Literally littered with video anomalies. Very suspicious camera angles, inexplicable panning and abrupt cutting, and HMQEII -- or, more precisely, the actress stand-in double on whose head a digital effigy of the Queen is superimposed -- was deliberately seated far from the nave, and seemingly ordered to keep her head bowed down for most of the service.

Just after 1h30m there's the best [the only?] clear shot of HMQ. Funny that the star of the show, the grieving wife, is almost ignored... Looks superficially quite genuine, but is it a stand-in double? Must be a lucrative little number with NDAs.
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