The start of the Rwandan civil war - the "shooting down" of the plane carrying President Habyarimana in 1994
The usual formula, a few bits of distressed plane parts dumped in some strange compound.
source - BBC in 2018, when the "investigation" into the "crash" was quietly parked up.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-africa-46687492
source - AP https://apnews.com/article/europe-afric ... f80c6f25d5
source - rfi
https://www.rfi.fr/en/africa/20171010-n ... ts-killing
Contemporary video clips [cannot embed due to age restrictions] showing the wreckage from the "crash" which demolished a brick wall [lol!]
at 1:36 onwards with the usual piece of identifiable paint to "prove" it was a Rwandan plane...
htt ps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lgCMG_X68wQ
and from 1:00 here
htt ps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NzlqgovpWzI
Fake plane crashes [continuation from old forum]
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Re: Fake plane crashes [continuation from old forum]
It's nearly time for the MH17 hoax judgement in The Hague [scheduled for November 17
is that a big enough clue that it's all fake?
The 11 page dissection of the fakery is on the old forum
https://fakeologist.com/forums/topic/ma ... ight-mh17/
On the 3rd anniversary in 2017, a crazy shiny silver eye-shaped monument was unveiled in the Netherlands on July 17 2017 by the King and Queen.
https://s.france24.com/media/display/b0 ... e_new.webp
List of "victims"
https://www.wsj.com/public/resources/do ... nifest.pdf
Wiki page
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Malaysia_ ... _Flight_17
Also flying under the radar [sic] was the report of the UK Coroner on July 1 2022 on 5 of the "victims" from the 298 total supplied by the UK.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-62014068
Not sure why the other 5 UK victims were not part of the same report.
Liam Sweeney, a 28-year-old student from Newcastle upon Tyne
Richard [Franklin] Mayne, a 20-year-old student from Leicester
Glenn [Raymond] Thomas, a 49-year-old spokesperson for the World Health Organization, who was from Blackpool
travelling to the World Aids Conference in Australia https://www.who.int/news/item/18-07-201 ... mh17-plane
John [Alexander] Alder, a 63-year-old retired British Telecom worker, from Gateshead
Ben [Benjamin Thomas] Pocock, a 20-year-old student from Bristol
all easily recycled
** er, crafted by others, read out at the phoney inquest, not said by Liz.
*** suuuure they were.
is that a big enough clue that it's all fake?
The 11 page dissection of the fakery is on the old forum
https://fakeologist.com/forums/topic/ma ... ight-mh17/
On the 3rd anniversary in 2017, a crazy shiny silver eye-shaped monument was unveiled in the Netherlands on July 17 2017 by the King and Queen.
https://s.france24.com/media/display/b0 ... e_new.webp
List of "victims"
https://www.wsj.com/public/resources/do ... nifest.pdf
Wiki page
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Malaysia_ ... _Flight_17
Also flying under the radar [sic] was the report of the UK Coroner on July 1 2022 on 5 of the "victims" from the 298 total supplied by the UK.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-62014068
Not sure why the other 5 UK victims were not part of the same report.
The 5/10 "victims"The five victims were identified using dental records, fingerprints and DNA testing, before being repatriated to England.***
After hearing all of the evidence, coroner Catherine Mason said: "I am satisfied that MH17 was shot down by a Buk missile that was fired by pro-Russian separatists.
"Taking all of the evidence into account, I have decided that the appropriate conclusion is that Liam Sweeney, Richard Mayne, Glenn Thomas, John Alder and Benjamin Pocock were unlawfully killed."
Liam Sweeney, a 28-year-old student from Newcastle upon Tyne
Richard [Franklin] Mayne, a 20-year-old student from Leicester
Glenn [Raymond] Thomas, a 49-year-old spokesperson for the World Health Organization, who was from Blackpool
travelling to the World Aids Conference in Australia https://www.who.int/news/item/18-07-201 ... mh17-plane
John [Alexander] Alder, a 63-year-old retired British Telecom worker, from Gateshead
Ben [Benjamin Thomas] Pocock, a 20-year-old student from Bristol
all easily recycled
I bet! Spread all over the world by then....Det Ch Supt Murphy said wreckage from the aircraft and the bodies of passengers were spread over a wide area, which made them "a challenge to recover".
Richard Maine's mother, Liz Maine, said ** he "lived life on the edge, living life apace and at full throttle as if he knew he was going to die young and had to fit everything in".
** er, crafted by others, read out at the phoney inquest, not said by Liz.
*** suuuure they were.
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Just a bit on 'victim' Richard F Mayne
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/newsbeat-28531370
He was a type 1 diabetic who was allegedly flying to Australia to take up a placement at University in Perth
Friend Piers seems pretty genuine and out of the loop.
https://www.pcjentertainment.com/
And Ben Pocock also just happened to be flying by the same route on the same day to....take up a placement at University in Perth
An amazing coincidence
https://www.itv.com/news/central/update ... kes-place/
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/newsbeat-28531370
He was a type 1 diabetic who was allegedly flying to Australia to take up a placement at University in Perth
Friend Piers seems pretty genuine and out of the loop.
https://www.pcjentertainment.com/
Yes it only makes sense for the narrative and the reassignment.Piers says he was at home with his flatmates, and didn't realize Richard was stopping off in Amsterdam.
"We were sort of thinking to ourselves, 'This is really stupid', but when it's not personal you don't dwell on it," he says. **
"But then I got a message from a friend saying apparently Rich was on the flight.
And Ben Pocock also just happened to be flying by the same route on the same day to....take up a placement at University in Perth
An amazing coincidence
https://www.itv.com/news/central/update ... kes-place/
hmmmHis father, Jeremy, tweeted a friend of his son this morning saying: "Sorry Robbie, Ben was on the Malaysian flight."
The friend, Robbie Fisher, replied: "I've heard Jeremy. I am so sorry for your loss. He was a wonderful man."
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Not part of the 2021 inquest was ANDREW GURNEY HOARE who attended an expensive school in his native Somerset, b 1954, m 1998 to Marie Estelle G Vermeulen. They lived in Luxembourg and the whole family just happened to be flying out together to Malaysia [Borneo] for a nice warm holiday.
https://www.somersetcountygazette.co.uk ... h17-plane/
Here's another:
Actually, he was 24 as this UK directorship [with London address....] confirms, coincidentally dated commencing 2021 [MAY] together with a partner
https://find-and-update.company-informa ... 5/officers
Well, of course it was Estella's son
https://web.archive.org/web/20140722035 ... nes-mh-17/
https://www.somersetcountygazette.co.uk ... h17-plane/
Interestingly, probate on assets in England was only granted in February 2021! That's slow progress, but perhaps another clue.Somerset born and bred banker Andrew Hoare, 59, his Dutch wife, Estella, and their sons, Jasper, 15, and Friso, 12, died when the plane was apparently shot out of the sky by Russian-backed rebels.
Here's another:
[or he was 26....as usual] Estella was 51.His stepson Rink Schoofs, 24, was not on the flight.
Actually, he was 24 as this UK directorship [with London address....] confirms, coincidentally dated commencing 2021 [MAY] together with a partner
https://find-and-update.company-informa ... 5/officers
Well, of course it was Estella's son
https://web.archive.org/web/20140722035 ... nes-mh-17/
Catch a video of Rink and Promina's 2022 wedding hereEstella's eldest son, Rink Schoofs (26) was not on board the flight and is currently staying with family members in The Netherlands. The boys had all attended the European School in Luxembourg: Jasper was in class s3 and Friso in class s2 of the Dutch-speaking section of the school. Both boys played squash at Top Squash in Sandweiler.
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Other UK 'victims'
Cameron Dalziel - who actually was South African action man helicopter pilot but had a UK passport [43 years old] another of the 'larger than life' 'infection smile' group which always populates these hoaxes.
source - https://www.news24.com/you/Archive/meet ... h-20170728
https://www.jewworldorder.org/zionist-m ... assengers/
They're right about all the garbage dumped in the field!
What else to show how real the crash was? Try that well-used trope, the stolen documents [credit cards in this case] to place the 'deceased' at the scene of the 'crash'
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/worl ... 27851.html
Who else? Another easily easily relocated 'anywhere' action man, Stephen Leslie Anderson from Scotland, ex-Royal Air Force and working in West Africa
https://www.scotsman.com/news/world/fli ... im-1531135
[Joanna Marie Sinclair, m 2003 Elgin district]
"He was a bundle of laughs" according to his siblings. His daughter was 21 at the time, Jordan Shanne. Stephen and Joanne were said to have been together for 15 years.
https://www.pressreader.com/uk/the-scot ... 2548064870
Cameron Dalziel - who actually was South African action man helicopter pilot but had a UK passport [43 years old] another of the 'larger than life' 'infection smile' group which always populates these hoaxes.
source - https://www.news24.com/you/Archive/meet ... h-20170728
Of course. Quoted in the media [of course] wasCameron, his wife Reine, and their two sons Sheldon (14) and Cruz (4), moved to Miri in Malaysia in December last year, where he worked for CHC Helicopters. Cameron had been sent for training in the Netherlands and was returning on yesterday's Malaysian Airlines flight.
Some sceptical digging hereMr Dalziel's brother-in-law Shane Hattingh
https://www.jewworldorder.org/zionist-m ... assengers/
They're right about all the garbage dumped in the field!
source - https://www.news24.com/you/Archive/meet ... h-20170728His brother Campbell said on Wednesday that DNA swabs had been taken from their parents, and that dental records and identity documents would also be used.
https://www.news24.com/news24/mh17-vict ... h-20140724
He thanked the British foreign office, his brother's employer, and others who have supported the family.
What else to show how real the crash was? Try that well-used trope, the stolen documents [credit cards in this case] to place the 'deceased' at the scene of the 'crash'
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/worl ... 27851.html
Pretty standard stuff.A Ukrainian government official claimed credit cards and other valuable possessions had been stolen from victims after the crash and were being used, The Sun reports. A spokesperson for Ukraine's National Security Council told the newspaper: "According to our information, terrorists are using credit cards of the victims."
Mr Dalziel's brother-in-law Shane Hattingh said: "We've been told some of his cards were stolen. After all we've been through - to do this to the families is so cruel. It is leaving some struggling for money. This really is the final insult."
Mr Dalziel’s wife Reine was on Thursday struggling to cancel his cards because they are not in her name. She also does not have a death certificate for her husband because the bodies have not been identified yet, further complicating matters.
Who else? Another easily easily relocated 'anywhere' action man, Stephen Leslie Anderson from Scotland, ex-Royal Air Force and working in West Africa
https://www.scotsman.com/news/world/fli ... im-1531135
He moved to Penang in Malaysia four years ago with his wife Joanna, 37, where he worked as a technician for Maersk Drilling.
[Joanna Marie Sinclair, m 2003 Elgin district]
"He was a bundle of laughs" according to his siblings. His daughter was 21 at the time, Jordan Shanne. Stephen and Joanne were said to have been together for 15 years.
https://www.pressreader.com/uk/the-scot ... 2548064870
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^^^ Stephen's daughter stayed local with her mother who remarried in Florida
https://www.192.com/atoz/people/higgins ... 463720589/
https://sites.rootsweb.com/~mjhiggins/fl-marriage1.htm
Widow Joanna is now back in Scotland and appeared - well a statement was read out - in the trial in the Netherlands in 2021
Nov 9 2021
and another "crime" to cement Stephen's presence at the "crash" site
https://www.192.com/atoz/people/higgins ... 463720589/
https://sites.rootsweb.com/~mjhiggins/fl-marriage1.htm
Widow Joanna is now back in Scotland and appeared - well a statement was read out - in the trial in the Netherlands in 2021
https://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/news/scot ... d-25411082Her statement was read out by a friend as Joanna was unable to be in court.
Nov 9 2021
and another "crime" to cement Stephen's presence at the "crash" site
Stand by for more press coverage on the 17th...[Joanna] said her husband’s laptop – which had precious family photos on it – was stolen from the crash site. She hit out at those who took it, saying: “These people are no better than grave-robbers.”
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And so it came to pass on the 17th...[11/17]
https://www.ibtimes.co.uk/dutch-court-s ... mail.co.uk&
Dutch court sentences three to life in prison for 2014 downing of MH17 over Ukraine
Mr Withers has been all over the media since 2015, even taking part in a BBC documentary about his UNCLE Glenn Thomas, the World Health Organisation '"spokesman", aged 59.
https://www.blackpoolgazette.co.uk/news ... ice-962830
https://www.itv.com/news/granada/2020-0 ... d-of-trial
that's the one!
https://www.itv.com/news/tyne-tees/2022 ... light-mh17
ancient photos of all your UK victims there.
https://www.ibtimes.co.uk/dutch-court-s ... mail.co.uk&
Dutch court sentences three to life in prison for 2014 downing of MH17 over Ukraine
suuuure...Judge Steenhuis said there was ample evidence from eyewitness testimony and photographs which tracked the missile system's movements into and back out of Ukraine to Russia.
"There is no reasonable doubt" that MH17 was shot down by a Russian missile system, Steenhuis said.
"There's no celebration," said Jordan Withers of Britain, whose uncle Glenn Thomas died. "Nothing is going to bring any of the victims back."
Mr Withers has been all over the media since 2015, even taking part in a BBC documentary about his UNCLE Glenn Thomas, the World Health Organisation '"spokesman", aged 59.
https://www.blackpoolgazette.co.uk/news ... ice-962830
https://www.itv.com/news/granada/2020-0 ... d-of-trial
that's the one!
https://www.itv.com/news/tyne-tees/2022 ... light-mh17
ancient photos of all your UK victims there.