wanda [November 9, 2013 - 10:25 pm]: Someone made a very valid point about satellites on Clues Forum.  He said that you notice they are always pointed ahead and slightly tilted... NOT up in to the sky.  As if they are aimed at the nearest hilltop... think about that, and it makes sense.
derealium [November 9, 2013 - 10:25 pm]: I believe that the old videos are fake, but nuclear power is something that I need to see more to dismiss.
Bootleg_Bill [November 9, 2013 - 10:26 pm]: @wanda:  you could always fly up with Sir Richard and see for yourself.  hahah  -   <a href="http://www.reuters.com/article/2013/11/08/entertainment-us-space-branson-idUSBRE9A70VJ20131108" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">http://www.reuters.com/article/2013/11/08/entertainment-us-space-branson-idUSBRE9A70VJ20131108</a>
wanda [November 9, 2013 - 10:26 pm]: Think about this... TSA... shouldn't those workers be coming down with cancers by now?  Shouldn't their hair and teeth be falling out?
wanda [November 9, 2013 - 10:26 pm]: That's gross Bootleg.  Fly up there with David Eike?  Yecch...
derealium [November 9, 2013 - 10:27 pm]: Some of those rocket launches for satellites on cluesforum are also CGI, but lordy mercy, it's a difficult step to think so many people are deceivers
Bootleg_Bill [November 9, 2013 - 10:27 pm]: hehe.
wanda [November 9, 2013 - 10:27 pm]: They make it seem like a lot of people.  People are kept compartmentalized... they are clueless.
farcevalue [November 9, 2013 - 10:27 pm]: Need to confirm whether nuclear plants are located in  remote areas where no other power is available, like Antartica.  They always seem to be close to conventional power supplies.
ArmunnRigh [November 9, 2013 - 10:30 pm]: paralysis allows consent
Bootleg_Bill [November 9, 2013 - 10:30 pm]: so do guns
wanda [November 9, 2013 - 10:30 pm]: Yeppers... got a nuclear power plant right here in Ontario, NY.  I am more afraid of a military assisted re-location than i am of a melt down.
derealium [November 9, 2013 - 10:30 pm]: If 911 victims were 3000 myths then how the hell haven't we exposed it by now to the world.  Alcohol makes me thinks such things are easy
wanda [November 9, 2013 - 10:31 pm]: Easy... we don't control the media or the propaganda.
Bootleg_Bill [November 9, 2013 - 10:31 pm]: trying to get folks to hear you out on that one...is like a 4 year hearing you out on algebra.
Bootleg_Bill [November 9, 2013 - 10:31 pm]: 4 year old
derealium [November 9, 2013 - 10:32 pm]: Frustrating.  I've tried on several political forums, they're worthless
Bootleg_Bill [November 9, 2013 - 10:33 pm]: o snap.  bet that was entertaining.  that must have thought you were batshit crazy?
derealium [November 9, 2013 - 10:34 pm]: Still at it on a few with Sandy Hoax etc.  I think a few are beginning to see it.
Banazir Galbasi [November 9, 2013 - 10:34 pm]: I think david irving changed his tune
farcevalue [November 9, 2013 - 10:35 pm]: Even the philosophy forums devoted to logic and critical thinking can't fathom fake news
wanda [November 9, 2013 - 10:35 pm]: I, too, wonder what happened to Rollo...
derealium [November 9, 2013 - 10:35 pm]: Seriously, these latest fake events seem to be intentional.  But the people still can't see it.  Dunno what to think about it but it is a laugh
Bootleg_Bill [November 9, 2013 - 10:36 pm]: it is "almost" impossible to have an educated discussion with the "distracted"    The best shot is when folks are starting to ask questions themselves...and seek out the "searching"  on their own.
wanda [November 9, 2013 - 10:36 pm]: Is there any hope for them?  They are the living dead, i guess.   Throw away people for the NWO.
farcevalue [November 9, 2013 - 10:36 pm]: JREF is nothing but trolls, for example.
wanda [November 9, 2013 - 10:37 pm]: That's true Bill... i learned that the hard way.
Bootleg_Bill [November 9, 2013 - 10:37 pm]: me too.  it is unfortunate.  but it is what it is.
Bootleg_Bill [November 9, 2013 - 10:38 pm]: Folks think they are smarter than they are (especially if they have "degrees")  they think  "No way the media is Fake"  "No way You know something I don't"   then the conversation changes....how bout them Red Sox. huh
ArmunnRigh [November 9, 2013 - 10:39 pm]: as my mother usually says "did you take a degree on that?"
wanda [November 9, 2013 - 10:39 pm]: Some have come around though.  My sister was a tough nut to crack... but she finally woke up.  I can tell it's real because she can finally talk about how she used to be embarrassed by me... now she's got my back.
Bootleg_Bill [November 9, 2013 - 10:39 pm]: ha
wanda [November 9, 2013 - 10:40 pm]: Yeah... the folks with the degrees are the worst.  I like say, when they throw their pedigree around, that i won't hold that against them.
farcevalue [November 9, 2013 - 10:41 pm]: I lay Ab's phrase: "Or so we are told" on my co-workers when they mention news stories.  I think it's breaking down their resistance to fakery.
wanda [November 9, 2013 - 10:41 pm]: I agree farce...
Bootleg_Bill [November 9, 2013 - 10:42 pm]: haha.  have said the same.  "sorry to hear you have a degree, but I will speak slower for you to compensate"
wanda [November 9, 2013 - 10:42 pm]: Yeah right.  I am typing this message real slow because i know you can't read too fast.
Bootleg_Bill [November 9, 2013 - 10:42 pm]: haha
wanda [November 9, 2013 - 10:44 pm]: :-
Banazir Galbasi [November 9, 2013 - 10:45 pm]: that girl that fell in the well back when cnn started got the channel up and running.
wanda [November 9, 2013 - 10:46 pm]: Who... what girl?  Helen Keller?
Banazir Galbasi [November 9, 2013 - 10:47 pm]: what does ab really think about the gluten free fad? :D
ArmunnRigh [November 9, 2013 - 10:47 pm]: wasn't that a Beatles sonh? "Hellen Keller"?
Banazir Galbasi [November 9, 2013 - 10:47 pm]: let me find it hold on....
ArmunnRigh [November 9, 2013 - 10:47 pm]: *song
Banazir Galbasi [November 9, 2013 - 10:48 pm]: <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jessica_McClure" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jessica_McClure</a>
wanda [November 9, 2013 - 10:50 pm]: Oh, isn
farcevalue [November 9, 2013 - 10:50 pm]: There may be something to the body having trouble with digesting large quantities of mega cash crops.
Banazir Galbasi [November 9, 2013 - 10:50 pm]: so markus allen is in the deception game...:P
ArmunnRigh [November 9, 2013 - 10:50 pm]: Juss Make Lure?
Bootleg_Bill [November 9, 2013 - 10:50 pm]: excluding cheba
wanda [November 9, 2013 - 10:51 pm]: Oh, isn't that a cozy picture of the Bush's with baby Jessica?  Yeah, she fell in the well so she could poison it and then her family could hold out their hands for the donations.
wanda [November 9, 2013 - 10:52 pm]: I am now gluten intolerant.  I am in the process of rebuilding my digestive system as we speak.  It's an ugly scene.  I won't buy the gluten free crap... expensive cardboard... although, i've not tried it.  It's a raquet.
derealium [November 9, 2013 - 10:53 pm]: grain has always been slave food
wanda [November 9, 2013 - 10:53 pm]: Wheat has been hybridized to be toxic.
farcevalue [November 9, 2013 - 10:53 pm]: I feel better when I avoid wheat.  But I could eat 3 baskets of bread before dinner like nothin'.
wanda [November 9, 2013 - 10:54 pm]: All grains.. cereal grains too.  Now they are all poison.  I foresee an epidemic of reactions in the near future.
Bootleg_Bill [November 9, 2013 - 10:54 pm]: <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B1Vcbm-XWtg" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B1Vcbm-XWtg</a>
wanda [November 9, 2013 - 10:54 pm]: If you eat wheat now... you need to start on pro-biotics right away.
wanda [November 9, 2013 - 10:55 pm]: The only way i don't react to any food i eat now is if i take pro-biotics.
Bootleg_Bill [November 9, 2013 - 10:56 pm]: quote of the night.  "there's all types of ways to look at things.  just don't take a look on the surface"
farcevalue [November 9, 2013 - 10:56 pm]: <a href="http://www.wheatbellyblog.com/2011/07/who-is-dr-william-davis/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">http://www.wheatbellyblog.com/2011/07/who-is-dr-william-davis/</a>
farcevalue [November 9, 2013 - 10:56 pm]: I have heard William Davis on a couple of podcasts.  Not a wheat fan.
Banazir Galbasi [November 9, 2013 - 10:58 pm]: no swearing on air!
ArmunnRigh [November 9, 2013 - 10:58 pm]: Phallix Jones
wanda [November 9, 2013 - 11:00 pm]: Organic is just a way to charge more for regular food.  The fear was necessary to drive the market.
wanda [November 9, 2013 - 11:00 pm]: I foresee much starvation in the near future... especially here in the belly of the beast.
Bootleg_Bill [November 9, 2013 - 11:01 pm]: think it is wise to eat a vegetable that was grown without pesticides put on them.  getting them is another story.
Bootleg_Bill [November 9, 2013 - 11:01 pm]: talking to your local farmer.  is the best way i know.
Bootleg_Bill [November 9, 2013 - 11:02 pm]: not to mention where the seed was generated.  gmo
Bootleg_Bill [November 9, 2013 - 11:03 pm]: it will be all good soon.  when "they" release cloned food
ArmunnRigh [November 9, 2013 - 11:03 pm]: There is no food shortage, it's just limited access to it
Bootleg_Bill [November 9, 2013 - 11:04 pm]: yes
derealium [November 9, 2013 - 11:05 pm]: 11pm in KKKanada?
derealium [November 9, 2013 - 11:07 pm]: It's 5pm in LuxomBORG and 7pm in the Neverlands
Bootleg_Bill [November 9, 2013 - 11:07 pm]: it's beer thirty in ireland
derealium [November 9, 2013 - 11:09 pm]: It's 11:09 in eastern USA.  No way it's the same time in Toronto.  Time Hoax
farcevalue [November 9, 2013 - 11:10 pm]: Did someone say vinyl?  33 1/3 RPM and 45 RPM.
Banazir Galbasi [November 9, 2013 - 11:10 pm]: any relation to aybesea?
derealium [November 9, 2013 - 11:10 pm]: I always thought AralSeas was Tim DC.  hoax on me
derealium [November 9, 2013 - 11:11 pm]: Banazir may have explained it.  hoaxsters
Bootleg_Bill [November 9, 2013 - 11:13 pm]: AbeSea is Tim
derealium [November 9, 2013 - 11:14 pm]: Boom. hoaxbusted
Bootleg_Bill [November 9, 2013 - 11:14 pm]: haha
derealium [November 9, 2013 - 11:15 pm]: I listen to Simon Shack
derealium [November 9, 2013 - 11:15 pm]: when me and the lady are romping
JohnnyClues [November 9, 2013 - 11:15 pm]: good comment I will also use on nappers---&gt; 
farcevalue
November 9, 2013 - 10:41 pm.
I lay Ab's phrase: "Or so we are told" on my co-workers when they mention news stories. I think it's breaking down their resistance to fakery.
Bootleg_Bill [November 9, 2013 - 11:16 pm]: very true.  have to chip away at the stone
JohnnyClues [November 9, 2013 - 11:16 pm]: get them thinking .....
farcevalue [November 9, 2013 - 11:17 pm]: My initial reaction to Sandy Hoax was "That didn't happen".  They looked at me like I had two heads.  Now they laugh a little and are starting to wonder.
derealium [November 9, 2013 - 11:17 pm]: i really do like Simon's band.  Demand a new one full of 911 references
ab [November 9, 2013 - 11:17 pm]: <a href="http://www.33isthemagicnumber.com/?utm_source=feed&#038;utm_medium=rss&#038;utm_campaign=feed" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">http://www.33isthemagicnumber.com/?utm_source=feed&#038;utm_medium=rss&#038;utm_campaign=feed</a>
JohnnyClues [November 9, 2013 - 11:26 pm]: @farcevalue: those sandy hookers staying in the news helps perhaps some who are hearing the alarm going
farcevalue [November 9, 2013 - 11:28 pm]: Maybe, but I don't think it's crossed their minds in a year.  They have probably already moved on from LAX.  It may be a cumulative effect.
JohnnyClues [November 9, 2013 - 11:30 pm]: yep, the forget yesterday,it's today syndrome
derealium [November 9, 2013 - 11:36 pm]: yesterday's got nothing for me old pictures that I'll always see
ArmunnRigh [November 9, 2013 - 11:37 pm]: is it me or do I always kill the mood? :P
derealium [November 9, 2013 - 11:38 pm]: time just bleeps the pages in my book of memories.  yestard day oooooohh
derealium [November 9, 2013 - 11:40 pm]: yes tards
ArmunnRigh [November 9, 2013 - 11:42 pm]: <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f3Qw5xVn7c0" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f3Qw5xVn7c0</a>
farcevalue [November 9, 2013 - 11:43 pm]: I saw a tree today with a bunch of flowers and other memorial stuff where a car accident likely happened.  I need to go back and take a photo for reference.
derealium [November 9, 2013 - 11:44 pm]: no one died and no one got hurt
wanda [November 9, 2013 - 11:46 pm]: His information was damaging to those who rule over us.  I do not believe Cooper was a controlled op.  Jones is controlled op.
farcevalue [November 9, 2013 - 11:46 pm]: I have definitely seen car accidents where people were hurt.  I have actually been in a couple.
derealium [November 9, 2013 - 11:47 pm]: Bill Cooper died but Alex Jones was not hurt
wanda [November 9, 2013 - 11:48 pm]: For some reason, three people in cars have died outside of my place over the past two years.  One i remember quite distinctly, because i was home at the time... it was definitely real.  The cops, firemen and ambulance workers were very quiet, very respectful and quite shaken up.  The accident cast a pall.
farcevalue [November 9, 2013 - 11:48 pm]: I think the master plan is for everyone to work until they are unable and spend their last days in a hospital having their savings drained back into the empire by the medical establishment.
wanda [November 9, 2013 - 11:49 pm]: Shook me up for a couple of weeks, and i only witnessed the aftermath... the clean-up and none of the gore.
farcevalue [November 9, 2013 - 11:50 pm]: That's why I mentioned the memorial: to have a reference to compare to the fakery.
wanda [November 9, 2013 - 11:50 pm]: I agree Farce... about the master plan... you stated it quite succintly.
derealium [November 9, 2013 - 11:51 pm]: Gotta do something for fook's sake
farcevalue [November 9, 2013 - 11:52 pm]: No camps, no population reduction, just extraction of productive value one degree shy of where everyone would quit complying.  We are miles away from not complying.
wanda [November 9, 2013 - 11:53 pm]: I wouldn't want to be that cop that shot Cooper when he finally wakes up (provided he's not a psychopath).  That would be a hard burden to carry.
wanda [November 9, 2013 - 11:56 pm]: Sophia Smallstorm is a controversial individual.
wanda [November 9, 2013 - 11:56 pm]: I don't mean that in a good way either.
derealium [November 9, 2013 - 11:57 pm]: Right wankers would set them back.  Billary's gonna be the next US president of the World
wanda [November 9, 2013 - 11:57 pm]: Here you go... she brings deception to the deception:  <a href="http://www.911forum.org.uk/board/viewtopic.php?t=6718" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">http://www.911forum.org.uk/board/viewtopic.php?t=6718</a>
derealium [November 9, 2013 - 11:58 pm]: I don't think they're all controlled, I think they all avoid controversial topics, but there is conflict in their lame game
wanda [November 10, 2013 - 12:01 am]: Hmmmm... now that i think about it... there is something fishy about that story too.  The guy says his footage was actual and she doctored it... but we think we have learned that none of the footage is actual.  Double deception... triple even.
wanda [November 10, 2013 - 12:02 am]: How many goddam layers in this onion?
ArmunnRigh [November 10, 2013 - 12:02 am]: glass onion
wanda [November 10, 2013 - 12:03 am]: Fetzer is making a career out of this crap.  I like how Rollo called him Fatxer.
wanda [November 10, 2013 - 12:03 am]: Fatzer.
wanda [November 10, 2013 - 12:04 am]: I can't take it anymore either.
derealium [November 10, 2013 - 12:05 am]: Fatxer works  Like Xaxby's Chicken...good shit
derealium [November 10, 2013 - 12:05 am]: lolwut
wanda [November 10, 2013 - 12:05 am]: Really bad acting job.  Tell my wife i love her very much...
farcevalue [November 10, 2013 - 12:05 am]: Just had a great concept for a business:  Deliberately release an inferior version of the eventual product you want to release.  Start a competing company with the real product that bashes the first one's inferiority.  Gin up publicity with a lawsuit or rumors of one.  Built in advertising...
ArmunnRigh [November 10, 2013 - 12:06 am]: I'll callher right now
wanda [November 10, 2013 - 12:06 am]: Lizbeth !!
wanda [November 10, 2013 - 12:06 am]: Fred Sanford... LizBeth... i'm coming to see you.
derealium [November 10, 2013 - 12:07 am]: I'm so sick of hearing fake grief.  It's always obvious and despicable.
derealium [November 10, 2013 - 12:07 am]: these people need be hung
wanda [November 10, 2013 - 12:07 am]: They do.  And this phony religious forgiveness meme needs to be killed too.
ArmunnRigh [November 10, 2013 - 12:08 am]: true, wanda
wanda [November 10, 2013 - 12:08 am]: Thanks Armunn... along with religions too... imo.
Bootleg_Bill [November 10, 2013 - 12:09 am]: kinda how the computer virus business is ran.  the companies hire a hacker to create a virus.  then they create the cure
ArmunnRigh [November 10, 2013 - 12:09 am]: absolutely, even the atheistic religion!
farcevalue [November 10, 2013 - 12:09 am]: The fakery research opens a whole new way to look at business, as well.
wanda [November 10, 2013 - 12:15 am]: I don't know... atheism is an absence of belief in deity.  I am an atheist.  That doesn't mean i don't believe in anything... i believe in something.  Have you ever heard of the Cult of Dusty?  This guy is hilarious... check this out:  <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bUOg5F886xw" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bUOg5F886xw</a>
ArmunnRigh [November 10, 2013 - 12:16 am]: atheism is the belief that there is no god, which is a god in itself, no?
ArmunnRigh [November 10, 2013 - 12:16 am]: I haven't. I'll check it tomorrow
derealium [November 10, 2013 - 12:17 am]: lol. JFK not obvious either.  more like a question mark
wanda [November 10, 2013 - 12:19 am]: No it's not.  It just means you don't believe in a god or in poly gods.  The prefix "a" means "not"... not-theistic.
Bootleg_Bill [November 10, 2013 - 12:19 am]: gonna be business as usual.  well into 2050.
derealium [November 10, 2013 - 12:19 am]: fakeology is a hard class with much ambiguity.
ArmunnRigh [November 10, 2013 - 12:20 am]: I didn't mean the word, but the end result
wolfman9 [November 10, 2013 - 12:20 am]: I've been wondering about that thing!!!
wanda [November 10, 2013 - 12:20 am]: Explain how not believing in a god is a belief in god?
wanda [November 10, 2013 - 12:21 am]: THAT sounds like a religious argument...
ArmunnRigh [November 10, 2013 - 12:21 am]: no, it's a belief that there is no god - a belief is already prone to religiousness
JohnnyClues [November 10, 2013 - 12:21 am]: hello wolfman
wanda [November 10, 2013 - 12:22 am]: So, if i believe it was warm and sunny today, that's a religion?
ArmunnRigh [November 10, 2013 - 12:22 am]: no, you felt it
ArmunnRigh [November 10, 2013 - 12:22 am]: 1st hand
wolfman9 [November 10, 2013 - 12:22 am]: I haven't heard anybody else talk about this 'star' and I looked at it the last few nights, never noticed it before.. What up J.C., everybody :o)
derealium [November 10, 2013 - 12:22 am]: David Icke addresses ancient history to support his theory.
derealium [November 10, 2013 - 12:23 am]: Speaker, don't be afraid to say that he has as much proof as the ambiguous fakeologists
wanda [November 10, 2013 - 12:24 am]: Semantics then?  Because there is no first hand evidence to be had on God... i believe that to be true.  I fail to see how that equates to religion... i believe in gnosticism... that is a religion.
ArmunnRigh [November 10, 2013 - 12:26 am]: <a href="https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/1120409/religion.jpg" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/1120409/religion.jpg</a> :P
wanda [November 10, 2013 - 12:26 am]: Although, i am skeptical, even, about that too... not all of it.
Bootleg_Bill [November 10, 2013 - 12:27 am]: the belief or non belief in god.  call it what you want.  is the same argument.   speaking on the unknown is just guessing and hoping.  when you say you know "for sure" then you are preaching.
ArmunnRigh [November 10, 2013 - 12:27 am]: yup
wanda [November 10, 2013 - 12:27 am]: Well said Bill.
wanda [November 10, 2013 - 12:27 am]: I concede the argument to you Armunn.
ArmunnRigh [November 10, 2013 - 12:28 am]: ;)
derealium [November 10, 2013 - 12:28 am]: Search Dave Johnson hoax on youtube to find him.  lol
derealium [November 10, 2013 - 12:28 am]: I like that guy, but he kept being banned from youtube.
Bootleg_Bill [November 10, 2013 - 12:29 am]: If any of you guys/gals ever "know for sure"  halla at me.  would be nice to know the most unknown question.
wanda [November 10, 2013 - 12:29 am]: Okay... so i am a religious atheist who definitely does not believe in a god or poly gods.
derealium [November 10, 2013 - 12:29 am]: OCS101 is one to check out too
wanda [November 10, 2013 - 12:30 am]: And my atheistic religion is superior to theism.  Haha... take that.
ArmunnRigh [November 10, 2013 - 12:30 am]: wanda, i don't believe in god either, my point is that atheists behave like a religion
JohnnyClues [November 10, 2013 - 12:30 am]: I think his moon stuff is between his bong hits
ArmunnRigh [November 10, 2013 - 12:30 am]: lol
derealium [November 10, 2013 - 12:30 am]: who's this guy talking?  He's my doppleganger
JohnnyClues [November 10, 2013 - 12:30 am]: videos I mean
wanda [November 10, 2013 - 12:31 am]: I already said you win... because you did win that argument.
ab [November 10, 2013 - 12:31 am]: @derealium: Pshea
wolfman9 [November 10, 2013 - 12:31 am]: are computers a reflection of nature or, is nature the reflection of some kind of computer...  nonrandom?
ArmunnRigh [November 10, 2013 - 12:31 am]: I have no interest in winning an argument with you, it's just to share thoughts :)
derealium [November 10, 2013 - 12:32 am]: thanks ab,  u da man
wanda [November 10, 2013 - 12:32 am]: Better stated is:  i learned something.
Bootleg_Bill [November 10, 2013 - 12:32 am]: Ahhh.. Wolf.  which came first...the chicken or the egg.
wanda [November 10, 2013 - 12:32 am]: The chicken vagina.
ArmunnRigh [November 10, 2013 - 12:33 am]: which is the same as its ass... groovy
wolfman9 [November 10, 2013 - 12:33 am]: ∞
wanda [November 10, 2013 - 12:33 am]: Yes it it... birds really define the term bumping uglies.
ArmunnRigh [November 10, 2013 - 12:34 am]: ahahahah
ArmunnRigh [November 10, 2013 - 12:34 am]: :D
ab [November 10, 2013 - 12:34 am]: <a href="http://globalnews.ca/news/957418/satellite-to-crash-to-earth-but-no-one-knows-where/?utm_source=facebook-twitter&#038;utm_medium=link&#038;utm_campaign=community" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">http://globalnews.ca/news/957418/satellite-to-crash-to-earth-but-no-one-knows-where/?utm_source=facebook-twitter&#038;utm_medium=link&#038;utm_campaign=community</a>
wanda [November 10, 2013 - 12:35 am]: Oh, i suspect it will fall in the ocean, like all the rest of them.
ArmunnRigh [November 10, 2013 - 12:35 am]: the fish are always the screwed ones
wanda [November 10, 2013 - 12:36 am]: I don't know... all of earth's nutrients are now in the ocean... thanks to our sociopaths in chief.
derealium [November 10, 2013 - 12:36 am]: think of how incredible it is that we're saying NASA is still a hoax.  It's hilarious
wolfman9 [November 10, 2013 - 12:36 am]: My dad's good friend is a manager dude on this mars thing at Lockheed. Sometimes I wonder what the hell it is he is really doing
derealium [November 10, 2013 - 12:37 am]: I suggest not to start with that argument when addressing the common sheeps.  I've tried it.  lofl
ArmunnRigh [November 10, 2013 - 12:37 am]: playing solitare?
wanda [November 10, 2013 - 12:37 am]: LOL... being compartmentalized.  He is on a need to know basis, and he doesn't need to know.
JohnnyClues [November 10, 2013 - 12:38 am]: @wolfman9: checkers anyone?
ArmunnRigh [November 10, 2013 - 12:38 am]: I'm more a chess guy
wolfman9 [November 10, 2013 - 12:38 am]: he seems like a really nice, legit kind of guy. I've hung out with him tonight, he is really nice. I think he is doing some kind of werk but what they use it for, who knows...
Bootleg_Bill [November 10, 2013 - 12:39 am]: $250,000 .  gets ya a trip to Space.  already 600/700 seats sold  <a href="http://www.reuters.com/article/2013/11/08/entertainment-us-space-branson-idUSBRE9A70VJ20131108" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">http://www.reuters.com/article/2013/11/08/entertainment-us-space-branson-idUSBRE9A70VJ20131108</a>
JohnnyClues [November 10, 2013 - 12:39 am]: he should join us here wolf
ab [November 10, 2013 - 12:39 am]: <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3jmjsrZcm7c" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3jmjsrZcm7c</a>
ab [November 10, 2013 - 12:39 am]: that's from PShea above link
wanda [November 10, 2013 - 12:40 am]: he/she
wolfman9 [November 10, 2013 - 12:40 am]: I asked him, thru my dad, how rockets and satellites work in space. He told me "the 2nd and 3rd
wanda [November 10, 2013 - 12:40 am]: P = pater... the male
wolfman9 [November 10, 2013 - 12:40 am]: newtonian laws
ArmunnRigh [November 10, 2013 - 12:40 am]: daddy
wanda [November 10, 2013 - 12:41 am]: yep
ArmunnRigh [November 10, 2013 - 12:42 am]: As I listen to today's call I recall something I picked up somewhere: "The truth is found not by what it is, but by what it isn't"
wanda [November 10, 2013 - 12:42 am]: concave earth, i found intriguing and credible, to my surprise.
Bootleg_Bill [November 10, 2013 - 12:42 am]: curtsy of Jan  &gt;  <a href="http://www.wildheretic.com/concave-earth-theory/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">http://www.wildheretic.com/concave-earth-theory/</a>
derealium [November 10, 2013 - 12:45 am]: That's because cluesforum hates
derealium [November 10, 2013 - 12:45 am]: black people
derealium [November 10, 2013 - 12:46 am]: lol
Bootleg_Bill [November 10, 2013 - 12:46 am]: anytime a known truther....will stay away from a topic.  with several attempts of suggestion of interest.  begs the question.  why?
derealium [November 10, 2013 - 12:46 am]: The earth is round as hell
Bootleg_Bill [November 10, 2013 - 12:47 am]: this type of understanding.  starts with all conversations on the table.  or you can't even sit.
wanda [November 10, 2013 - 12:48 am]: Yes... it is not flat.  However, consider how your retina translates what you see to your brain.  And the part of your brain that senses light has never been exposed to said light.
derealium [November 10, 2013 - 12:48 am]: Michael was an alien
derealium [November 10, 2013 - 12:50 am]: Hey, who was he playing in that fat suit?   I'm quite sure that was a peter story.
derealium [November 10, 2013 - 12:50 am]: fat suit peter, tell us
Bootleg_Bill [November 10, 2013 - 12:51 am]: if nothing happens Pshea.  do not avoid us.  it will just allow you to reflect on all the distractions out there.  then keep on treaken down the hole
JohnnyClues [November 10, 2013 - 12:52 am]: well said bootleg
derealium [November 10, 2013 - 12:53 am]: this fat suit Michael Jackson story is really bothering me.  I can't recall it.  But I heard it
Bootleg_Bill [November 10, 2013 - 12:53 am]: if I stopped every time I was wrong.  welp.  would been done long time ago.
ArmunnRigh [November 10, 2013 - 12:53 am]: true bill
Bootleg_Bill [November 10, 2013 - 12:56 am]: elvis's value was in bringing "african culture" music to mainstream
derealium [November 10, 2013 - 12:56 am]: oh oh, I'm sure it was related to a friend of Trayvon
derealium [November 10, 2013 - 12:56 am]: the fat suit MJ that is...
derealium [November 10, 2013 - 12:57 am]: No one remembers it?  Trayvon was a hoax by the way, lol at the public
ab [November 10, 2013 - 12:58 am]: @derealium: psyOp
ab [November 10, 2013 - 12:59 am]: <a href="http://subliminalsynchrosphere.blogspot.ie/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">http://subliminalsynchrosphere.blogspot.ie/</a>
JohnnyClues [November 10, 2013 - 12:59 am]: @derealium: the Zimmerman special
derealium [November 10, 2013 - 12:59 am]: <a href="http://allthehappycreatures.blogspot.com.au/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">http://allthehappycreatures.blogspot.com.au/</a>
derealium [November 10, 2013 - 12:59 am]: talkshoe talks in that link
wolfman9 [November 10, 2013 - 12:59 am]: Peter Tosh was allegedly murdered on Sept. 11, 1987.  The trial of the accused lasted 11 mins.
derealium [November 10, 2013 - 1:00 am]: synchronicity
wanda [November 10, 2013 - 1:00 am]: All the media attention could not happen in the real world... station attorneys would not allow for it, it would pollute the trial, they would open themselves to too many lawsuits.
wolfman9 [November 10, 2013 - 1:00 am]: I think they faked Tosh's and Bob Marley's death..
ArmunnRigh [November 10, 2013 - 1:01 am]: good reasoning, wanda
wolfman9 [November 10, 2013 - 1:01 am]: wailers
derealium [November 10, 2013 - 1:02 am]: Here's the synchronicity talk shoe.    <a href="http://www.talkshoe.com/talkshoe/web/talkCast.jsp?masterId=113894&#038;cmd=tc" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">http://www.talkshoe.com/talkshoe/web/talkCast.jsp?masterId=113894&#038;cmd=tc</a>
wolfman9 [November 10, 2013 - 1:02 am]: bob marley's father was in british army, like laurel canyon heads
derealium [November 10, 2013 - 1:03 am]: Hard to know what they're talking about but they watch a lot of cartoons
wanda [November 10, 2013 - 1:03 am]: Morrisonm, Hendrix... you said it before me Wolfman... they were all in military families.
ArmunnRigh [November 10, 2013 - 1:04 am]: I thought Hendrix was Morgan Freeman! :P
Bootleg_Bill [November 10, 2013 - 1:04 am]: ha
wanda [November 10, 2013 - 1:04 am]: LOL... maybe.  I wouldn't rule it out.
wolfman9 [November 10, 2013 - 1:05 am]: do you have opinions on the 'standard tuning' debate? A 440 Vs. A 432
ArmunnRigh [November 10, 2013 - 1:05 am]: well, there has to be a different effect, what effect I don't know
wolfman9 [November 10, 2013 - 1:06 am]: watch this: <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1zw0uWCNsyw" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1zw0uWCNsyw</a>
ArmunnRigh [November 10, 2013 - 1:06 am]: I can't, I'm on the call. I'll save it
wolfman9 [November 10, 2013 - 1:07 am]: why is 440 the standard?
wanda [November 10, 2013 - 1:07 am]: My understanding is it is a psy op.  You can tune to any frequency you wish to tune to.  Although, i cannot rule out subliminal effect.
ArmunnRigh [November 10, 2013 - 1:07 am]: Ah cymatics
Bootleg_Bill [November 10, 2013 - 1:07 am]: wonder if the guberment has created a medicine or tech that has opened up the full power of the brain?  if not.  bet they're working on it.
Bootleg_Bill [November 10, 2013 - 1:07 am]: the mind is the last frontier
JohnnyClues [November 10, 2013 - 1:07 am]: I will check it out too wolfman thx 4 link
wanda [November 10, 2013 - 1:07 am]: I don't buy that Bill.
Bootleg_Bill [November 10, 2013 - 1:08 am]: same here Ab.  been trying to figure out magic tricks since a child
Bootleg_Bill [November 10, 2013 - 1:08 am]: what was I selling?  hehe
wanda [November 10, 2013 - 1:09 am]: Oh they would love that... no doubt.  But if they had it, they wouldn't need all the illusion.
httpsjoeyz.myopenid.com [November 10, 2013 - 1:09 am]: Nothing is more important then well placed shills
wanda [November 10, 2013 - 1:11 am]: Remember how AJ used to try to sell us on how powerful the mind control was... that it could never be broken?  He lied.
wanda [November 10, 2013 - 1:11 am]: Selling the super-natural.
derealium [November 10, 2013 - 1:12 am]: g'night fellas and Wand'ahhh.  was a good show
wanda [November 10, 2013 - 1:13 am]: Numbers are the tools of the sorcerers.
wanda [November 10, 2013 - 1:13 am]: Nite nite DeReal...
wolfman9 [November 10, 2013 - 1:13 am]: I agree wanda, you can tune to whatever you like, all approximates can be transcendental.  cheers all!
Bootleg_Bill [November 10, 2013 - 1:14 am]: rawrawradio.  thanks Ab.  night everyone.
wanda [November 10, 2013 - 1:14 am]: Really good show... night all.
ab [November 10, 2013 - 1:14 am]: thanks all have a good Sunday
ArmunnRigh [November 10, 2013 - 1:19 am]: good night, wanda
ArmunnRigh [November 10, 2013 - 1:19 am]: good night bill
ArmunnRigh [November 10, 2013 - 7:16 am]: @wanda: I don't know... atheism is an absence of belief in deity. I am an atheist. That doesn't mean i don't believe in anything... i believe in something. Have you ever heard of the Cult of Dusty? This guy is hilarious... check this out: <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bUOg5F886xw" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bUOg5F886xw</a> - Ah yes!! I had watched this but didn't remember. Yes, it's hillarious. Thanks!
ArmunnRigh [November 10, 2013 - 7:18 am]: @wolfman9: November 10, 2013 - 1:06 am
watch this: <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1zw0uWCNsyw" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1zw0uWCNsyw</a> - Yes, I see your point. Well there has to be some different effect, yes, but to what extent I do not know.
wanda [November 10, 2013 - 9:47 am]: Armunn... glad you caught that video... now if we could only get all the theists to watch that.  It's funny because it's true !!!
wanda [November 10, 2013 - 9:48 am]: Wolfman... Cymatics -nice vid... saved to my favorites.
aralsea [November 10, 2013 - 2:39 pm]: 3 minutes of disaster footage philippines typhoon <a href="http://www.abs-cbnnews.com/nation/regions/11/10/13/watch-yolanda-makes-violent-landfall-guiuan-eastern-samar" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">http://www.abs-cbnnews.com/nation/regions/11/10/13/watch-yolanda-makes-violent-landfall-guiuan-eastern-samar</a>
aralsea [November 10, 2013 - 2:44 pm]: Canadian media reports 10,000 dead in Tacloban <a href="http://www.cbc.ca/news/world/philippine-typhoon-leaves-up-to-10-000-dead-in-tacloban-city-1.2421580" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">http://www.cbc.ca/news/world/philippine-typhoon-leaves-up-to-10-000-dead-in-tacloban-city-1.2421580</a>
aralsea [November 10, 2013 - 2:49 pm]: Historical note: Tacloban is where Gen MacArthur returned to the Philippines after being expelled by Japan
ArmunnRigh [November 10, 2013 - 3:26 pm]: It looks real, but I have two points to raise: 1) How do these camera crews always get these close on the scene shots in the middle of roofs flying around without getting off the ground themselves and how is their equipment able to function in those conditions? 2) Living in a frequent heavy storm area, why are populations in these countries always depicted as being totally unprepared and shocked?
aralsea [November 10, 2013 - 4:04 pm]: @ArmunnRigh: 1) Not sure how the crew don't get swept up with the storm. But they are shooting from inside a sheltered area. 2) I think since they are used to these annual storms, they never always hit the same location so people might assume that it will be the next town or island, but not mine...or else economic conditions dont allow for proper preparation. Philippines is notorious for overcrow
aralsea [November 10, 2013 - 4:05 pm]: overcroweded ferry boats etc...
ArmunnRigh [November 10, 2013 - 4:08 pm]: Yeah, well, some shots I find difficult to have been taken from a shelter, but I won't rule it out. Still, what I meant with looking unprepared and shocked was mentally, not necessarily materially, which depends to access given to the necessary tools. I mean it seems as if it's the first heavy storm that ever hit them.
ArmunnRigh [November 10, 2013 - 4:10 pm]: In contrast for example, (and I'm not saying that it's real or not, I have no horse in this race :-) )  we usually see japanese dealing quite cooly mentally with an earthquake, which is the natural reaction if you live in a high quake incidence area. You know what I mean?
aralsea [November 10, 2013 - 4:14 pm]: @ArmunnRigh: Sure, Japanese and Filipino cultures are quite different. Philippine Regional areas can be easily cut off from each other since its so many various islands. They have less equipment at their disposal as well. The poverty issue again.
ArmunnRigh [November 10, 2013 - 4:15 pm]: I see. Well, I hope all's well with your wife's relatives.
aralsea [November 10, 2013 - 4:16 pm]: yes they are far from the disaster zone, but there is a water dam in their province that could overflow due to rain.
ArmunnRigh [November 10, 2013 - 4:17 pm]: Yes, that's a danger with heavy floods for sure
aralsea [November 10, 2013 - 4:18 pm]: yes hopefully it will not spill into the valley.
wanda [November 10, 2013 - 6:04 pm]: Armunn... well, the typhoon is happening, apparently, because my son'
wanda [November 10, 2013 - 6:06 pm]: because my son's boss is on vacation there and he called in to request an emergency sump pump install... in the Phillipines... har, har.  He was being funny, but it is happening.
wanda [November 10, 2013 - 6:08 pm]: That said... it's weather.  If you live in the Phillipines, you deal with the regional weather... the people can handle it.  Typhoons blow but hat blows even worse is how the media has to turn it into Armageddon each and every time.
wanda [November 10, 2013 - 6:11 pm]: Anyhow... i just showed up to share this quote i just came across:  Believe those who seek the truth. Doubt those who find it.
ab [November 10, 2013 - 7:28 pm]: @wanda: I'll add that one.
wanda [November 10, 2013 - 9:33 pm]: Thanks Ab... add it to where?
ArmunnRigh [November 10, 2013 - 9:49 pm]: Oh I don't doubt the storms, just had a few doubts about the kind of footage we're always shown.
wanda [November 10, 2013 - 9:50 pm]: I figured that out after i had more time to read over the posts.  They are in your face phonied up, aren't they?  Have you seen some of those videos?
ArmunnRigh [November 10, 2013 - 9:52 pm]: Yeah, I have. Somethin3g that bothers me is why people look so mentally unprepared when for generations they've had this.
wanda [November 10, 2013 - 9:58 pm]: Exactly.  I can't find it but the one that cracks me up the most is the news guy is reporting how dangerous it is and how fast the wind is blowing and two people emerge in the film behind him just out for a casual stroll... doo de doo...
ArmunnRigh [November 10, 2013 - 10:00 pm]: yes, but then on other footage you see panicky faces, shocked as if caught in a flash storm. It is not coherent with how people from a seasonal storm area would face it. Maybe they were just compelled to act it up for TV's sake
wanda [November 10, 2013 - 10:01 pm]: Who knows how old the footage is, where it was shot, what those conditions were... they re-use films all the time.
ArmunnRigh [November 10, 2013 - 10:02 pm]: true
wanda [November 10, 2013 - 10:02 pm]: Never let a good disaster go to waste...
ArmunnRigh [November 10, 2013 - 10:05 pm]: catastrophes became the foundation story of humanity - I must write an article about his
wanda [November 10, 2013 - 10:06 pm]: The big bang... the original catastrophe.  It brought us in, it can take us out.
wanda [November 10, 2013 - 10:07 pm]: The never ending story.
wanda [November 10, 2013 - 10:08 pm]: You have a web-site?
ArmunnRigh [November 10, 2013 - 10:08 pm]: yeah. One thing is for sure: we do need stories to build upon, it's in our very nature.
ArmunnRigh [November 10, 2013 - 10:08 pm]: I used to, but not anymore.
wanda [November 10, 2013 - 10:11 pm]: Perhaps we do... i will have to put some thought into that.  All my life i have sought to get away from stories.  (i was raised by sociopaths)  I left home at 15 and never returned... took me a long time to get my head screwed on right.  Imagine how p*ssed i was when i figured out the world is run by them.
ArmunnRigh [November 10, 2013 - 10:13 pm]: If stories were not the decisive factor in human behavior, then there wouldn't be a need for media control, nor for religious control - which have been the earlier storytellers.
ArmunnRigh [November 10, 2013 - 10:14 pm]: I would dare to say that you only "got your head screwed on right" when you were able to find a story f your own that fitted your experienced reality and allowed you to exist coherently.
wanda [November 10, 2013 - 10:14 pm]: Well, stories for the purpose of making sense of the world we live in... where we came from and where we are going...  true.
wanda [November 10, 2013 - 10:16 pm]: Yeah, believe it or not, it was the bible... and i didn't get the word in church, i read it on my own cover to cover.  I believed in what Jesus said and took it to heart.  Now i know Jesus didn't really live, but i fail to see how that matters... and how so-called Christians fail to see they are not following the words and works of Jesus.
wanda [November 10, 2013 - 10:17 pm]: The christ is merely our higher aspects... what we can all strive to be.
wanda [November 10, 2013 - 10:19 pm]: Because the words of the biblical Jesus are all natural law principals.  I have been through every one of them... there are no exceptions.  It's not super-natural... it is completely natural.
ArmunnRigh [November 10, 2013 - 10:19 pm]: When it comes to stories, or myths in this case, it is not the factuality that matters but the purpose. When truth is unachievable, we will enter a story that will provide a cushion of safety against a seemingly always lingering threat.
wanda [November 10, 2013 - 10:20 pm]: I don't think it needs to be that way... i think it is that way now.  Our society has been engineered to be that way... it can be engineered also, in the other direction.
wanda [November 10, 2013 - 10:21 pm]: I think the pagan cultures and religions are evidence of this.
wanda [November 10, 2013 - 10:21 pm]: Judaism and all its evil spawn were brought in with much bloodshed and tyranny.
ArmunnRigh [November 10, 2013 - 10:22 pm]: That's the true challenge of fakeology - as it is not a mere matter of checking if media events are staged (if the "priests" are telling the truth), it is a matter of slicing reality to eliminate as many untruths as possible. That destroys the cushion-stories. What then? What lies beyond when we have discovered everything truth is not?
ArmunnRigh [November 10, 2013 - 10:23 pm]: Even pagans had stories, stories that were in line with the environment, but still stories that could be sliced through.
wanda [November 10, 2013 - 10:24 pm]: It is the stories that obscure our view of that.  That is the purpose of the allegory.  I think the allegory began as a means of amusement... to tell a story.  Then some evil sorcerers came in and cast a spell to anthropomorphize the allegories... for power and control.
wanda [November 10, 2013 - 10:25 pm]: Because the pagans were not worshiping their gods... their gods merely illustrated universal truths.
ArmunnRigh [November 10, 2013 - 10:28 pm]: If that were true, then there would be no need to create the myths in the first place, as the answers would be self-evident. "What are trees?", asks the child to the parent. The childs asks because he can experience the trees, but has no meaning to give them. So a story is passed on to allow that child to experience the tree while standing on the same ground as the rest of her family.
ArmunnRigh [November 10, 2013 - 10:29 pm]: Yes, I know pagans were not about worship, but that's not exactly the point. I'm not talking about worshiping a story, I'm saying that humans require stories, not necessarily to hold them as sacred.
wanda [November 10, 2013 - 10:30 pm]: Amusement is always necessary to humans.
wanda [November 10, 2013 - 10:31 pm]: Storytelling, music, dance, art... amusements.
ArmunnRigh [November 10, 2013 - 10:31 pm]: That's where we disagree, I believe art and stories are not amusements, but a very core necessity of humans
wanda [November 10, 2013 - 10:33 pm]: I have heard it said there are only 12 original stories... and when you think about it... it is true.  When you understand the mystery religion and symbology, you can craft an endless amount of fiction around the basic archetypes.  Hell.. you could write terrific fiction just by throwing down some tarot cards.
wanda [November 10, 2013 - 10:34 pm]: Amusement is not exclusive to the human race either.
ArmunnRigh [November 10, 2013 - 10:35 pm]: certainly not
ArmunnRigh [November 10, 2013 - 10:36 pm]: I have some articles I wrote quite some time ago that you might find interesting. Would they interest you?
wanda [November 10, 2013 - 10:37 pm]: I would be interested.
ArmunnRigh [November 10, 2013 - 10:39 pm]: let me see how I can share them
wanda [November 10, 2013 - 10:40 pm]: You can share them here... or if you want you can post them on my blog page on my website... or if they are very personal to you, i'll give you my email.
ArmunnRigh [November 10, 2013 - 10:42 pm]: yeah, I was considering the method. They're public, so no problem.
ArmunnRigh [November 10, 2013 - 10:42 pm]: <a href="https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/1120409/The%20Woman%20and%20the%20Feminine%20Principle.pdf" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/1120409/The%20Woman%20and%20the%20Feminine%20Principle.pdf</a> - here's one
wanda [November 10, 2013 - 10:42 pm]: My web-site is:  <a href="http://www.akisstobreakthespell.com/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">http://www.akisstobreakthespell.com/</a>
wanda [November 10, 2013 - 10:43 pm]: my email address is:  <a href="mailto:akisstobreakthespell@yahoo.com" target="_blank">akisstobreakthespell@yahoo.com</a>
ArmunnRigh [November 10, 2013 - 10:43 pm]: <a href="https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/1120409/Once%20Upon%20a%20Time%20in%20the%20West%20-%20analysis.pdf" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/1120409/Once%20Upon%20a%20Time%20in%20the%20West%20-%20analysis.pdf</a> - here's the other one
ArmunnRigh [November 10, 2013 - 10:43 pm]: Oh, you'd prefer email?
wanda [November 10, 2013 - 10:44 pm]: No... i'm good with that.  I'll check it out.  You should start a blog... it's cheap (free) and easy.
ArmunnRigh [November 10, 2013 - 10:45 pm]: I used to have a website, but then the host went down and I didn't see a need to put it back up for the two readers I had :-D
wanda [November 10, 2013 - 10:46 pm]: Well, it's good so far...
ArmunnRigh [November 10, 2013 - 10:46 pm]: if you want to share comments directly to me, my email is <a href="mailto:armunnrigh@sapo.pt" target="_blank">armunnrigh@sapo.pt</a>
wanda [November 10, 2013 - 10:47 pm]: Awesome... got it.
wolfman9 [November 10, 2013 - 11:20 pm]: Rob Ford = Canadian Marion Barry? an interesting dude himself. I doubt anything bad will happen to Ford's career but, if something happens where he has to step down or something, he'll have a comeback like Barry, I bet you.. <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marion_barry" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marion_barry</a>
smj [November 10, 2013 - 11:24 pm]: brother barry has been a sideshow   for decades.
smj [November 10, 2013 - 11:24 pm]: <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1977_Hanafi_Muslim_Siege" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1977_Hanafi_Muslim_Siege</a>
wolfman9 [November 10, 2013 - 11:25 pm]: haha, yes!
wanda [November 11, 2013 - 12:09 am]: Armunn... that was absolutely amazing... i am beyond impressed.  Thank you for sharing that... it found it very profound... indeed.  You could be teaching the class instead of seeking knowledge... although, it is one in the same... you are beyond adept.
ab [November 11, 2013 - 5:24 am]: @ArmunnRigh: some excellent material of yours. I created a post from the above chat as you can see.
ArmunnRigh [November 11, 2013 - 2:04 pm]: Oh, I noticed now. Thanks,ab
ArmunnRigh [November 11, 2013 - 2:42 pm]: Guys, take a look at this explained well done fakery: <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W8sGTh7ZpoY" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W8sGTh7ZpoY</a>
ArmunnRigh [November 11, 2013 - 2:43 pm]: And this one is also important, especially due to the "lies people tell themselves": <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lLRbTtd8IKM" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lLRbTtd8IKM</a>
wanda [November 11, 2013 - 2:48 pm]: Lol... he should've ended that video with "I'm okay".
ArmunnRigh [November 11, 2013 - 2:48 pm]: Indeed :D
ArmunnRigh [November 11, 2013 - 3:36 pm]: Oh and look at this one so pertinent to 9/11 imagery: <a href="http://youtu.be/WsirCoxcfo4" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">http://youtu.be/WsirCoxcfo4</a>
ArmunnRigh [November 11, 2013 - 3:39 pm]: amazing how suddenly this one is inconclusive :D
wanda [November 11, 2013 - 4:41 pm]: hmmmm... yeah.
ArmunnRigh [November 11, 2013 - 4:45 pm]: apparently someone has a message for you, Wanda, on Mami's chat...
Tom-Dalpra [November 11, 2013 - 4:51 pm]: watched those mr dellusion videos Armunn. Interesting. Strikes me as obfuscation.
ArmunnRigh [November 11, 2013 - 4:52 pm]: Well, he does a perfect job with the first two examples. His senses only seem to dampen on the third.... FOR SOME REASON :D
Tom-Dalpra [November 11, 2013 - 4:53 pm]: It feels like a tactic...admitting the fakery so that we can't be sure of anything
Tom-Dalpra [November 11, 2013 - 4:53 pm]: as he says. with this low level video IT COULD BE REAL
Tom-Dalpra [November 11, 2013 - 4:53 pm]: PAH
Tom-Dalpra [November 11, 2013 - 4:54 pm]: don't like him . he gives me the creeps
Tom-Dalpra [November 11, 2013 - 4:54 pm]: he talks a lot of sense...
ArmunnRigh [November 11, 2013 - 4:54 pm]: Could be the tactic you mentioned, though the first two examples I posted are clear fakes and he is spot on in showing the fakery
ArmunnRigh [November 11, 2013 - 4:54 pm]: he only retracts about a PLANE
ArmunnRigh [November 11, 2013 - 4:55 pm]: anyone would make the association with 9/11, even subconsciously, so he had to make it inconclusive
Tom-Dalpra [November 11, 2013 - 4:56 pm]: yeh
Tom-Dalpra [November 11, 2013 - 4:56 pm]: fake planes...come with all the legit stuff then debunk fake planes
ArmunnRigh [November 11, 2013 - 4:56 pm]: right
ArmunnRigh [November 11, 2013 - 4:56 pm]: or fake plane footage to be more exact
ArmunnRigh [November 11, 2013 - 4:57 pm]: fake footage involving planes
Tom-Dalpra [November 11, 2013 - 4:57 pm]: a bit like how penn and teller support the 9/11 official story
ArmunnRigh [November 11, 2013 - 4:57 pm]: right
ArmunnRigh [November 11, 2013 - 4:57 pm]: got to keep putting bread on the table
Tom-Dalpra [November 11, 2013 - 4:58 pm]: weird really. they go to the length of dressing up like a twat to try and protect the lies
Tom-Dalpra [November 11, 2013 - 4:58 pm]: a fool perhaps is better
Tom-Dalpra [November 11, 2013 - 4:58 pm]: super flippin non-existant fake God BUULLSHIT
Tom-Dalpra [November 11, 2013 - 4:59 pm]: fake super hero I mean
Tom-Dalpra [November 11, 2013 - 4:59 pm]: captain dellusion come on?
ArmunnRigh [November 11, 2013 - 4:59 pm]: Heh, once a Prime Minister of Portugal said he wanted some guy for his government, despite him refusing and said "Everyone has his price" ;)
Tom-Dalpra [November 11, 2013 - 5:00 pm]: I'll take anything!
ArmunnRigh [November 11, 2013 - 5:00 pm]: Ministry of Garbage Bins
Tom-Dalpra [November 11, 2013 - 5:00 pm]: but don't expect me to shut up about lying :-)
ArmunnRigh [November 11, 2013 - 5:01 pm]: or the Ministry of Silly Walks :D
Tom-Dalpra [November 11, 2013 - 5:01 pm]: :-) i'll take that
ArmunnRigh [November 11, 2013 - 5:01 pm]: <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iV2ViNJFZC8" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iV2ViNJFZC8</a>
Tom-Dalpra [November 11, 2013 - 5:02 pm]: i read some of your piece that Ab posted - very interesting.
ArmunnRigh [November 11, 2013 - 5:03 pm]: Thanks
wanda [November 11, 2013 - 5:16 pm]: Thank you Armunn... i've not been on Mami's for a few days.  That was a link to a NASA video of a rocket launch.  I think RJ is trying to convince me space travel is real....
ArmunnRigh [November 11, 2013 - 5:16 pm]: Yeah, I saw it... well... 8)
wanda [November 11, 2013 - 5:18 pm]: RJ and i normally see eye to eye.  I linked him to Clues Forum to see the NASA fakery, but who can say?  You win some, you lose some.
ArmunnRigh [November 11, 2013 - 5:19 pm]: it's not something one convinces another of
Tom-Dalpra [November 11, 2013 - 5:19 pm]: It's difficult when people don't get the basic stuff. It's so basic - ie all space travel is a complete joke - that to be on the other side of the fence is divisive by nature. funny that people get 9/11 being an inside job but draw the line at space travel...
wanda [November 11, 2013 - 5:19 pm]: No... you are correct.  One has to see it for oneself.
wanda [November 11, 2013 - 5:20 pm]: Or... you can lead a horse to water.
ArmunnRigh [November 11, 2013 - 5:20 pm]: many lines are drawn, Tom, in different places, depending on the person
ArmunnRigh [November 11, 2013 - 5:20 pm]: I don't want to ride RJ! :P Do you? :D
Tom-Dalpra [November 11, 2013 - 5:21 pm]: not anymore. he rocket boy
Tom-Dalpra [November 11, 2013 - 5:22 pm]: he believe in them rocets
ArmunnRigh [November 11, 2013 - 5:22 pm]: Elton John said it!
wanda [November 11, 2013 - 5:22 pm]: As you say Tom... it does stymie.  I like RJ... will have to keep my eye open for select tidbits to return the favor...
Tom-Dalpra [November 11, 2013 - 5:22 pm]: he can take off..in slow motion
Tom-Dalpra [November 11, 2013 - 5:23 pm]: going up ...a few feet...levelling out...see you in Siberia
ArmunnRigh [November 11, 2013 - 5:23 pm]: "He's the rocket maaaaaaaan"
Tom-Dalpra [November 11, 2013 - 5:23 pm]: Rj - have you met him?
wanda [November 11, 2013 - 5:23 pm]: That whole debunking videos thing is beyond my ken... but when it gets pointed out by someone more studied than i, i can clearly see it.  And, understood, most people won't detect that on their own.
Tom-Dalpra [November 11, 2013 - 5:24 pm]: that it's disinfo?
Tom-Dalpra [November 11, 2013 - 5:24 pm]: ultimately?
ArmunnRigh [November 11, 2013 - 5:24 pm]: Yes, but one does not need to debunk every single one - as you don't debunk every single movie scene to know it's an illusion
wanda [November 11, 2013 - 5:24 pm]: I don't quite understand the continued belief of the myth i what is obvious trickery... especially an awake individual.
ArmunnRigh [November 11, 2013 - 5:25 pm]: you'll understand if you look at yourself years back. I understand it better that way
Tom-Dalpra [November 11, 2013 - 5:25 pm]: Armunn the wise
ArmunnRigh [November 11, 2013 - 5:26 pm]: we've all been there, some longer than other, but all
Tom-Dalpra [November 11, 2013 - 5:26 pm]: Hey, I post stuff and the most out-there alternative theorist is the one that tries to debunk me.
wanda [November 11, 2013 - 5:26 pm]: Well, right.  If such and such has lied... at all... everything becomes suspect.  When the list of lies becomes innumerable... that is when you have to consider everything they present is fraudulent.
ArmunnRigh [November 11, 2013 - 5:27 pm]: Here on the site, Tom?
Tom-Dalpra [November 11, 2013 - 5:27 pm]: We should trust our senses and go forward with our perspective
Tom-Dalpra [November 11, 2013 - 5:28 pm]: no not here armunn - on facebook - i use that.
wanda [November 11, 2013 - 5:28 pm]: Even back then Armunn, i had questions... about rockets, about religion, about most things... i spent most of my life trying to wrap/warp my brain around absurd concepts.
ArmunnRigh [November 11, 2013 - 5:30 pm]: right, but that does not mean you would see the images as fake
ArmunnRigh [November 11, 2013 - 5:30 pm]: A lot of people have questions about 9/11, but few accept image fakery
ArmunnRigh [November 11, 2013 - 5:30 pm]: as me, years back
Tom-Dalpra [November 11, 2013 - 5:30 pm]: fake victims - no planes at the towers
Tom-Dalpra [November 11, 2013 - 5:31 pm]: that's difficult to get
ArmunnRigh [November 11, 2013 - 5:31 pm]: the first time I heard about image fakery in 9/11 I laughed my ass off
wanda [November 11, 2013 - 5:31 pm]: True, but we are not speaking of "awake" people... and when these things were first suggested to me, i checked them out.  I understand most do not do that... but they are not awake.
Tom-Dalpra [November 11, 2013 - 5:31 pm]: i sort of went on the trip of watching sept clues and then getting to the concept of vicsims which I still haven't entirely got my head round.
ArmunnRigh [November 11, 2013 - 5:32 pm]: Well, I took longer, because I discarded it for years, before actually looking into it
ArmunnRigh [November 11, 2013 - 5:32 pm]: Yeah, vicsims are difficult to conceive, but easy to prove
wanda [November 11, 2013 - 5:32 pm]: First time i heard of not planes was here on Fakeology about a year ago.  I thought... well, this is disinfo... now i see it clear as a bell.  So, i reckon, plant a seed.
Tom-Dalpra [November 11, 2013 - 5:32 pm]: lots of people don't bother. it doesn't motivate them
Tom-Dalpra [November 11, 2013 - 5:33 pm]: yes Wanda
Tom-Dalpra [November 11, 2013 - 5:33 pm]: @Arm'Yeah, vicsims are difficult to conceive, but easy to prove'
Tom-Dalpra [November 11, 2013 - 5:34 pm]: and as Mr Dssillusion said. If you can fake it in a mediocre fashion and get away with it, then you have it all!
ArmunnRigh [November 11, 2013 - 5:34 pm]: the problem is, like I said yesterday, the stories we sit on prevent us from seeing fakery at first where fakery IS NOT SUPPOSED TO EXIST. We were taught subconsciously that images are real, photos are real. We take a snap of ourselves with friends and bam there it is as we took it. These stories also prevent us from seeing the through the logic falacy that if one image is real that doesn't mean
ArmunnRigh [November 11, 2013 - 5:34 pm]: they all are
wanda [November 11, 2013 - 5:34 pm]: That's all we can do.  The sorcerers, at this point, are bringing more to our side daily... its all in stages, but i am not so sure that is a bad thing.  They want chaos, they've got it... it cuts two ways.
Tom-Dalpra [November 11, 2013 - 5:37 pm]: Well I don't think it's  sinister either. That's all they have. The illusion that it IS sinister.
ArmunnRigh [November 11, 2013 - 5:37 pm]: chaos is a story, like any other; and it's the story they're selling
wanda [November 11, 2013 - 5:49 pm]: I think it's sinister at its root.  Certainly there are useful idiots who think they are doing good... but one could say, at this stage, ignorance is not acceptable.
ArmunnRigh [November 11, 2013 - 5:51 pm]: Yeah, I agree that dishonest "truth seeking" is unacceptable. Ignorance is not really a problem since we all have the tools to fix that, with willpower. But I know that's what you meant with the word "ignorance" there.
wanda [November 11, 2013 - 5:51 pm]: The big bang.  I did say 12 original stories, didn't i... i think i should have said only one.
wanda [November 11, 2013 - 5:53 pm]: The willful sort... because how many time have people followed this pied piper or that only to have that faith outright trampled on.
ArmunnRigh [November 11, 2013 - 5:55 pm]: yep, the cushion stories we hold on to, so warm and safe. It must really be a hermit's journey. "Everyone dies alone" - even psyche characters.
wanda [November 11, 2013 - 5:55 pm]: The learning curve should be increasing exponentially... yet we have some "truthers"  who won't give up the ghost... like Fetzer.
wanda [November 11, 2013 - 5:57 pm]: It's not believable, yet all we can do is watch its slow and inevitable (i hope) unwinding.
ArmunnRigh [November 11, 2013 - 5:57 pm]: can they? If it's their bu$ine$$ not to, then they won't. Aggressors have always relied upon traitors.
wanda [November 11, 2013 - 5:58 pm]: Right... nice set up.  Someone like me comes along and points out the obvious and it's an outrage to the entire entourage... what b.s.
wanda [November 11, 2013 - 5:59 pm]: Well.. we've snapped so many paradigms so far... we just need to come up with a snappy resolution for these die hard "truthers" who will not see truth.
ArmunnRigh [November 11, 2013 - 6:00 pm]: lol, they will be the first to say "Kick her door down!"
ArmunnRigh [November 11, 2013 - 6:01 pm]: I said something like this on the last call: "If people are dishonest then they're not my problem."
wanda [November 11, 2013 - 6:10 pm]: They're everyone's problem.
ArmunnRigh [November 11, 2013 - 6:10 pm]: We can't, nor should we, carry those people on our shoulders.
wanda [November 11, 2013 - 6:14 pm]: No, absolutely not.  I am nearly constantly fighting with someone who won't acknowledge patent truths.  I have been kicked off quite a few forums... i am no stranger to that.  For nothing more than presenting my case, knowing my topic and staying with it like a bull dog.  IF they are shills, they will bounce you.
wanda [November 11, 2013 - 6:15 pm]: Because the only defense they have is to make you disappear.
wanda [November 11, 2013 - 6:15 pm]: Metaphorically, or...
ArmunnRigh [November 11, 2013 - 6:15 pm]: I only disagree that it is not necessary to be a shill to bounce you.
wanda [November 11, 2013 - 6:16 pm]: LOL...okay.
wanda [November 11, 2013 - 6:16 pm]: Care to elaborate on that?
ArmunnRigh [November 11, 2013 - 6:17 pm]: maybe this will illustrate it: <a href="http://minutemanpatriot.homestead.com/files/RKBA/TroopsObeyLaws.jpg" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">http://minutemanpatriot.homestead.com/files/RKBA/TroopsObeyLaws.jpg</a>
ArmunnRigh [November 11, 2013 - 6:17 pm]: were all the troopers in the picture willing believers or just dishonest about their position?
wanda [November 11, 2013 - 6:18 pm]: so, a shill or a drone... aren't they one in the same?  In the final analysis?
ArmunnRigh [November 11, 2013 - 6:18 pm]: my point exactly! :D
wanda [November 11, 2013 - 6:19 pm]: How did you come by your gnosticism?
smj [November 11, 2013 - 6:19 pm]: "If people are dishonest then they're not my problem." most women have an inate understanding of this concept.
smj [November 11, 2013 - 6:20 pm]: <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zsr_d5q2O8g" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zsr_d5q2O8g</a>
wanda [November 11, 2013 - 6:20 pm]: How so smj?
smj [November 11, 2013 - 6:21 pm]: it's a technique to keep their worse halves in line.
ArmunnRigh [November 11, 2013 - 6:22 pm]: @Wanda: Oh, a slow gradual process. I was deeply into buddhism for a time in my life until I turned away. Still, my personal investigations there were kept - but they are personal and therefore not an objective formula for everyone
wanda [November 11, 2013 - 6:22 pm]: I can see that... in simpler times.
wanda [November 11, 2013 - 6:25 pm]: Armunn... that's a legitimate path.  My son tried to enlighten me to Buddhaism... through teaching me gnosticism.  It was difficult to wrap my brain around nothing, but when i did, it was off to the races.  I have since knocked his Buddhist boat out of the water.  We have come along way together, spiritually, my son and i.  My son is a brilliant alchemist...
ArmunnRigh [November 11, 2013 - 6:25 pm]: @smj: I would like to hear more about that
Tom-Dalpra [November 11, 2013 - 6:25 pm]: I get the importance of spirituality and the wo/man oneness thing... not that I come at it from any place other than my own experience...and common sense I think.
ArmunnRigh [November 11, 2013 - 6:26 pm]: Women have always, for better and for worse, been the center of societies - and for good reason
Tom-Dalpra [November 11, 2013 - 6:27 pm]: The V. The pathway to spirituality
smj [November 11, 2013 - 6:27 pm]: @armunnrigh watch the video  <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zsr_d5q2O8g" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zsr_d5q2O8g</a>
wanda [November 11, 2013 - 6:27 pm]: The O...
ArmunnRigh [November 11, 2013 - 6:28 pm]: @smj: any particular time of the video? I don't care much for samba :)
smj [November 11, 2013 - 6:29 pm]: nevermind, the title is isso e problema dele.
wanda [November 11, 2013 - 6:30 pm]: Judaism spells god like this:  G_d or g_d... they are very anti-female.  The wearing of yarmulka is their way of saying FU to the O.  Priests are a part of that mysogeny, you can tell because they wear the skull caps too.
ArmunnRigh [November 11, 2013 - 6:31 pm]: @smj: you know portuguese?
Tom-Dalpra [November 11, 2013 - 6:31 pm]: Christianity is so sexist 'Our Father etc...' God is seen as a man..
ArmunnRigh [November 11, 2013 - 6:32 pm]: @Wanda: Yes, but women have also been the center of that.
wanda [November 11, 2013 - 6:33 pm]: Well, yeah, with Jesus, but it's veiled... obscured.
ArmunnRigh [November 11, 2013 - 6:33 pm]: Nevertheless
Tom-Dalpra [November 11, 2013 - 6:34 pm]: @ Armunn -lop-sided patriarchal society for you or not?
smj [November 11, 2013 - 6:34 pm]: i can still understand and read it, but i only get to practise spanish in texas. so, i wouldn't claim to still speak it.
Tom-Dalpra [November 11, 2013 - 6:34 pm]: es portuguese hombre
ArmunnRigh [November 11, 2013 - 6:35 pm]: @smj: this attitude of women, depicted in the samba video, is a more or less recent phenomenon. For example, look into the differences between the first and second wave of feminism. Still, the first comment my girlfriend had was "These women embarrass me"
ArmunnRigh [November 11, 2013 - 6:35 pm]: @Tom -lop-sided patriarchal society for you or not? - what do you mean?
smj [November 11, 2013 - 6:35 pm]: nao, uma menina brasileira me ensinou, no miami, ha muito anos
ArmunnRigh [November 11, 2013 - 6:36 pm]: @smj: are the celtic rebel? :D
Tom-Dalpra [November 11, 2013 - 6:36 pm]: dis culpa me no intiendo smj - la musica de Lima es ok
smj [November 11, 2013 - 6:37 pm]: nope, just your average serf.
ArmunnRigh [November 11, 2013 - 6:37 pm]: @Tom :D everybody goes for spanish when attempting portuguese
ArmunnRigh [November 11, 2013 - 6:37 pm]: @smj I was kidding. It's just that he claims to know portuguese.
Tom-Dalpra [November 11, 2013 - 6:37 pm]: si, yo tambien
ArmunnRigh [November 11, 2013 - 6:38 pm]: @Tom -lop-sided patriarchal society for you or not? - what do you mean?
Tom-Dalpra [November 11, 2013 - 6:38 pm]: @Armunn. I just wondered if you saw our society in the west as male dominated?
wanda [November 11, 2013 - 6:38 pm]: Armunn... in response to your saying "nevertheless"... for me, for you, for many on this site in particular, that would apply... for the man in the street, in his/her current state of awareness, that doesn't fly... this is why we have the societal problems we do.  I point to the logic in this by illustrating that it took thousands of years to bring to fruition.
smj [November 11, 2013 - 6:40 pm]: it's hard not to learn portuguese if your around it enough. it feels good to speak it.
ArmunnRigh [November 11, 2013 - 6:41 pm]: @Tom: No, of course not. Women's consent and participation has always been central. You see, patriarchy still relies on women to exist, because women are, psychologically, the centre of any society. You mentioned you read my article on the feminine principle?
ArmunnRigh [November 11, 2013 - 6:42 pm]: @smj: you might be shocked to hear actual portuguese from Portugal, instead of brazilian :)
Tom-Dalpra [November 11, 2013 - 6:42 pm]: yep. I KNOW IN ACTUALITY women are central, but aren't the decisions that are made at top level all made by men?
wanda [November 11, 2013 - 6:43 pm]: I'm with you Tom.
wanda [November 11, 2013 - 6:43 pm]: And all creations that don't contain both the male and female aspects lead to chaos.
ArmunnRigh [November 11, 2013 - 6:43 pm]: decisions are not the determining factor in the way it flows. If women do not support the men behind the decisions all the way down to the peasant, then it won't go.
smj [November 11, 2013 - 6:44 pm]: i know, i like to mumble. so brasilian perfect for me.
wanda [November 11, 2013 - 6:44 pm]: Men... in high places, are making decisions without care and concern for the feminine.  What's a girl to do, jump off a cliff?
ArmunnRigh [November 11, 2013 - 6:44 pm]: @wanda: exactly - and patriarchal civilization has avoided it's own destruction because of women's consent and active participation
wanda [November 11, 2013 - 6:46 pm]: I am somewhat confused.
Tom-Dalpra [November 11, 2013 - 6:46 pm]: It's all women's fault is what he's saying
Tom-Dalpra [November 11, 2013 - 6:46 pm]: joke!
Tom-Dalpra [November 11, 2013 - 6:47 pm]: i didn't finish your article yet armunn but I find your writing has clarity.
Tom-Dalpra [November 11, 2013 - 6:48 pm]: we are the same in spirit surely
Tom-Dalpra [November 11, 2013 - 6:48 pm]: these bodies are transient
smj [November 11, 2013 - 6:48 pm]: @wanda not as confused as this um, aah, well-person.
smj [November 11, 2013 - 6:48 pm]: <a href="http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-3445_162-57611512/paula-poundstone-on-aca-hey-were-used-to-tech-problems/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-3445_162-57611512/paula-poundstone-on-aca-hey-were-used-to-tech-problems/</a>
ArmunnRigh [November 11, 2013 - 6:49 pm]: let me give you a personal example: My father always encouraged my curiosity. My mother always fought hard to any expense to keep me in line with society. Yes, it's a simplistic and not entirely representative picture, but what I mean to say is that any inch of rebellion is usually quelled in the household by the women. If you read the last few pages of the Feminine Principle article, I think you
wanda [November 11, 2013 - 6:49 pm]: That's a good thing smj... if you're not confused, you're not paying attetion.
ArmunnRigh [November 11, 2013 - 6:49 pm]: will immediately see my reasoning
wanda [November 11, 2013 - 6:54 pm]: Perhaps you would care to read some of my writing... This is a very short page: <a href="http://www.akisstobreakthespell.com/all-words-are-lies-her-story.html" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">http://www.akisstobreakthespell.com/all-words-are-lies-her-story.html</a>
ArmunnRigh [November 11, 2013 - 6:57 pm]: I certainly will. I just found the rellevant passages, if I may.
ArmunnRigh [November 11, 2013 - 6:57 pm]: «Thus, there are two main psychological results of this in women (and
also in men). One of them is the integration of sadism. I mean to say
that the prisoner had let herself “die” (she let her identity fade away,
through the extreme suffering and psychological and physical
deprivation) and was “reborn”, integrating the character of the jailer.»
ArmunnRigh [November 11, 2013 - 6:58 pm]: «She gets out of prison (an illusion) because she convinced herself and
convinced the jailer that she is like him. This woman will act as if she
were a stereotypical man, living a continuous effort to show herself
as capable of reaping success in the patriarchy.»
ArmunnRigh [November 11, 2013 - 6:58 pm]: «The other result is
opposite: the integration of masochism. Here, the identity of the
prisoner has succumbed but she does not have the required energy
to go through the stress of a completely artificial adaptation (which
is, already, artificial in man himself). So, she will surrender her
existence, becoming a total servant of the jailer;»
ArmunnRigh [November 11, 2013 - 6:59 pm]: «scared but at the
same time dependent on the power he exerts over her. These are the
women who disconnect from their own lives and spiritual heritage to
please their dominating jailer.»
ArmunnRigh [November 11, 2013 - 6:59 pm]: sorry for the flood
ArmunnRigh [November 11, 2013 - 6:59 pm]: will read your text now
smj [November 11, 2013 - 6:59 pm]: i'm always wary of dichotomies.
ArmunnRigh [November 11, 2013 - 7:03 pm]: «Words are not truth, they are merely illusion.  The only thing that is real is action or existence (is-ness). When we see that politicians words are in contrast to their result, we see illusion.   When Empire speaks about bringing peace and all we see is chaos, their words are not reality.  When we stop believing lies, we break the spell.» - magnificent quote, I totally agree
ArmunnRigh [November 11, 2013 - 7:06 pm]: And with this one, it shows we are on the same page: «Male warriors are sent out to protect the women, children and the elderly of the tribe.  Not because the women are incapable of fighting, but because if the woman fails, the tribe fails.» - exactly. If women refuse men being sent to war on their behalf, then the spell is also broken. But in this sadomasochistic game, women stopped being hones
ArmunnRigh [November 11, 2013 - 7:06 pm]: to themselves and to nature.
ArmunnRigh [November 11, 2013 - 7:06 pm]: *honest
Tom-Dalpra [November 11, 2013 - 7:07 pm]: Yeh, just finished reading myself Wanda. Good stuff.
wanda [November 11, 2013 - 7:07 pm]: Thank you... and in fairness i am at a disadvantage to properly respond to the feminine article as i have not completely read it yet.  Bill paying day, major distractions and cooking up enzymatic recipes to restore my health... but will totally take a raincheck.
wanda [November 11, 2013 - 7:09 pm]: Thank you Tom, thank you.  Ab certainly has attracted the more cerebral type to his blog... that speaks well for Ab.  Don't let us down bra.
ArmunnRigh [November 11, 2013 - 7:10 pm]: bra will never let THEM down :D
Tom-Dalpra [November 11, 2013 - 7:11 pm]: haha! timely bossom reference@ Armunn and Wanda I'd like to think we are on the same page, so to speak!  I just want to properly get your perspectives
wanda [November 11, 2013 - 7:11 pm]: LOL
wanda [November 11, 2013 - 7:13 pm]: I certainly feel on a par with you Tom.  Speaking for myself, i have only wrapped my head around gnosticism for maybe a year and a half.  Once you reach an understanding of the concept of nothing, it begins teaching you.
Tom-Dalpra [November 11, 2013 - 7:13 pm]: ''rocket man!''
ArmunnRigh [November 11, 2013 - 7:14 pm]: Yes, indeed a very good article, Wanda. Thank you for sharing. If you get to reading mine, you'll see we've been using 1001 words to depict the same picture. I would like to reaffirm, however, that my views are not imposing as they are my own. They are not objective.
Tom-Dalpra [November 11, 2013 - 7:15 pm]: I don't even really know what gnosticism is, but I do appreciate talking to sane, intelligence.
wanda [November 11, 2013 - 7:16 pm]: Oh, i absolutely will.  You might have noticed, i love your work.  That's not shoe shine... i don't work that way.  Everything on my web-site i have written, except where linked, and except for one page... the Even Though page.
Tom-Dalpra [November 11, 2013 - 7:16 pm]: hey you made friends.
Tom-Dalpra [November 11, 2013 - 7:17 pm]: you're both driven
wanda [November 11, 2013 - 7:17 pm]: We were never fighting.  Merely exchanging concepts.... turns out we agreed all along.  Damn this written language.
ArmunnRigh [November 11, 2013 - 7:18 pm]: And in essence, my view of gnosticism is that it is already a result of artificiality. Were it not for the presence of artificiality, there would be no need for seeking a knowledge that is not really necessary. Existing is all that's needed.
Tom-Dalpra [November 11, 2013 - 7:18 pm]: brilliant
Tom-Dalpra [November 11, 2013 - 7:18 pm]: that's cleared that up then :-)8oB):-)
Tom-Dalpra [November 11, 2013 - 7:19 pm]: ''rocket man''
wanda [November 11, 2013 - 7:20 pm]: Everything that can be said about nothing is true.  Everything that can be said abuout the exact opposite of nothing (everything) is also true.  There's you gnosticism Tom.  So Armunn... there you have it... nothing here is artificial.
wanda [November 11, 2013 - 7:21 pm]: LOL...
wanda [November 11, 2013 - 7:21 pm]: There is no super-natural... that is for sure.
ArmunnRigh [November 11, 2013 - 7:22 pm]: right
ArmunnRigh [November 11, 2013 - 7:22 pm]: not even the parasites
wanda [November 11, 2013 - 7:22 pm]: Nope... they wouldn't need illusion if they were.
ArmunnRigh [November 11, 2013 - 7:24 pm]: I don't know what gave Tom the impression we were fighting! :D
wanda [November 11, 2013 - 7:25 pm]: People always think my son and i are fighting too...
wanda [November 11, 2013 - 7:26 pm]: Although we never raise our voices... we just point, counter point.  And the occasional... NO... no distilling this down to nothing !!
ArmunnRigh [November 11, 2013 - 7:26 pm]: :)
Tom-Dalpra [November 11, 2013 - 7:27 pm]: I didn't think you were fighting. More text confusion! I thought we were all having a good exchange. no worries. i really enjoyed it and thought your conclusions were great. enjoyed reading both your stuff today. all cool actually. no worries guys. smj too. night. I'm to bed x
ArmunnRigh [November 11, 2013 - 7:27 pm]: good rest Tom
wanda [November 11, 2013 - 7:27 pm]: Sleep tight Tom...
Dustyash [November 11, 2013 - 8:45 pm]: hello
ArmunnRigh [November 11, 2013 - 8:45 pm]: Hey Dash :P
Dustyash [November 11, 2013 - 8:47 pm]: That was a good night last Saturday there Peter was on to something when he said there is something odd in the western sky I watched the you tube post he put up there and it is odd it is not a planet
Dustyash [November 11, 2013 - 8:47 pm]: very strange indeed
ArmunnRigh [November 11, 2013 - 8:48 pm]: Well... I won't say either way. I guess we'll find out on the 23rd anyway, so not long to wait!
Dustyash [November 11, 2013 - 8:49 pm]: And it is not a UFO because they obviously in my opinion they are not real it is something else it is very strange
ArmunnRigh [November 11, 2013 - 8:49 pm]: They do seem have a script at hand for a staged alien invasion
Dustyash [November 11, 2013 - 8:50 pm]: I guy was filming it with his camera at full zoom and the object appeared to be smaller in some cases and larger in other cases
Dustyash [November 11, 2013 - 8:51 pm]: it is shaped what appeared to me as the look of the pentagon shape and it constanly flickers with color all the time very odd
ArmunnRigh [November 11, 2013 - 8:51 pm]: wel... have you watched those videos about how realistic fake videos are made?
Dustyash [November 11, 2013 - 8:53 pm]: yeah  I know but this was a something different tho this guy was on a beach and several people have witnessed it as well
Dustyash [November 11, 2013 - 8:53 pm]: I would like to know what it is
ArmunnRigh [November 11, 2013 - 8:53 pm]: yeah Peter said he saw it himself. I guess we'll find out soon enough
Dustyash [November 11, 2013 - 8:54 pm]: yes I suppose perhaps
Dustyash [November 11, 2013 - 8:55 pm]: A good video to watch is this one I posted below <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mLwtZdLedFc" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mLwtZdLedFc</a>
ArmunnRigh [November 11, 2013 - 8:56 pm]: ah yes, I've watched it and thumbed up your comment. Yeah, really good
Dustyash [November 11, 2013 - 8:56 pm]: This is not the video of the object it is actually completely off topic but a very good video
ArmunnRigh [November 11, 2013 - 8:56 pm]: Yes, I know
ArmunnRigh [November 11, 2013 - 8:57 pm]: I watched it
Dustyash [November 11, 2013 - 8:57 pm]: Yeah it is called the Jones Platation
Dustyash [November 11, 2013 - 8:57 pm]: Plantation
ArmunnRigh [November 11, 2013 - 8:57 pm]: ? It was Larken Rose
Dustyash [November 11, 2013 - 8:58 pm]: it was produced by Larken Rose but it is a different one you would like it if you saw the first one very enjoyable
ArmunnRigh [November 11, 2013 - 8:58 pm]: can you share it?
Dustyash [November 11, 2013 - 8:59 pm]: it is an animated armunn are you able to click on it <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mLwtZdLedFc" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mLwtZdLedFc</a>
Dustyash [November 11, 2013 - 8:59 pm]: it is called the Jones Plantation
ArmunnRigh [November 11, 2013 - 9:00 pm]: This comes up: LARKEN ROSE: The Most Dangerous Superstition
ArmunnRigh [November 11, 2013 - 9:00 pm]: which I have seen
Dustyash [November 11, 2013 - 9:00 pm]: click on this link hehttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mLwtZdLedFcre
Dustyash [November 11, 2013 - 9:00 pm]: <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mLwtZdLedFc" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mLwtZdLedFc</a>
ArmunnRigh [November 11, 2013 - 9:01 pm]: sorry, still the same video
ArmunnRigh [November 11, 2013 - 9:01 pm]: I'll search later
Dustyash [November 11, 2013 - 9:02 pm]: sorry how about this I made a mistakehttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vb8Rj5xkDPk
Dustyash [November 11, 2013 - 9:02 pm]: <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vb8Rj5xkDPk" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vb8Rj5xkDPk</a>
ArmunnRigh [November 11, 2013 - 9:02 pm]: Ah that's the right one
Dustyash [November 11, 2013 - 9:03 pm]: yes very cool
ArmunnRigh [November 11, 2013 - 9:03 pm]: will watch later and let you know my comments
Dustyash [November 11, 2013 - 9:03 pm]: cool
Dustyash [November 11, 2013 - 9:03 pm]: It really sums up the problems in society really
ArmunnRigh [November 11, 2013 - 9:04 pm]: the first one was already very simple and yet comprehensive
Dustyash [November 11, 2013 - 9:04 pm]: Right yeah I am glad you enjoyed it
ArmunnRigh [November 11, 2013 - 9:05 pm]: Yeah, I did. Didn't know the guy until today
Dustyash [November 11, 2013 - 9:05 pm]: if you like the first one like I said you would really enjoy this one
ArmunnRigh [November 11, 2013 - 9:05 pm]: thanks! I'll watch later as I'm watching something else now
Dustyash [November 11, 2013 - 9:05 pm]: and it is only 12 mins long too
Dustyash [November 11, 2013 - 9:06 pm]: Hookie dookie
Dustyash [November 11, 2013 - 9:43 pm]: I will never vote again!
Dustyash [November 11, 2013 - 9:43 pm]: ever
Dustyash [November 11, 2013 - 9:43 pm]: never
Dustyash [November 11, 2013 - 9:44 pm]: till the day I die
ArmunnRigh [November 11, 2013 - 9:45 pm]: "Yea
Dustyash [November 11, 2013 - 9:46 pm]: If everybody did that I wonder what would happen and stop watching tv as well
ArmunnRigh [November 11, 2013 - 9:46 pm]: I'm watching the Jones Plantation
ArmunnRigh [November 11, 2013 - 9:47 pm]: If nobody voted, they would still put numbers in the voting counts :D
Dustyash [November 11, 2013 - 9:47 pm]: that is a great video fantastic really
ArmunnRigh [November 11, 2013 - 9:48 pm]: You have no idea how much this relates to our 1974 "revolution" here in Portugal. :D
Dustyash [November 11, 2013 - 9:48 pm]: yeah but it would certainly be a real concern for the powers that be it would be interesting
Dustyash [November 11, 2013 - 9:48 pm]: right
Dustyash [November 11, 2013 - 9:48 pm]: interesting mmmm
ArmunnRigh [November 11, 2013 - 9:52 pm]: There's footage of a field worker who owned his own tools being talked to by a member of the "Workers Comitee". He was telling him "Give your tool the Cooperative and it will be shared among the workers that need it. You can use all other tools as well". The guy replied "I got this tool through my work, and you want to take it away?". The other "You'll have more tools than ever!" :D
Dustyash [November 11, 2013 - 9:54 pm]: right
ArmunnRigh [November 11, 2013 - 9:54 pm]: This is the best depiction of communism I've ever seen
Dustyash [November 11, 2013 - 9:56 pm]: yes it is amazing I have been trying to send this video The Jones Plantation to everybody I know
ArmunnRigh [November 11, 2013 - 9:56 pm]: Send it to ab on skype, I'm sure he'll make a post of it
Dustyash [November 11, 2013 - 9:56 pm]: Larken Rose tells it how it is he is amazing really bold and straight foward
ArmunnRigh [November 11, 2013 - 9:56 pm]: it's worthy
Dustyash [November 11, 2013 - 9:57 pm]: I think Ab knows about this video I know Banazir had talked about it with him I will post it again
ArmunnRigh [November 11, 2013 - 9:58 pm]: even though this is only a part of the whole, it is very detailed
Dustyash [November 11, 2013 - 10:01 pm]: glad you enjoyed it how can you not enjoy it it goes without saying really I will never vote again that is why we are in this mess in the first place I don't want to be a participant anymore because it is like you might as well be in the crowd of one of Hitler's rants it is the same thing it is disgusting to see people just fall into the trap year after year
Dustyash [November 11, 2013 - 10:02 pm]: And call it freedom
ArmunnRigh [November 11, 2013 - 10:02 pm]: Not to participate is only part, but already an important one, I agree!
Dustyash [November 11, 2013 - 10:03 pm]: it is a big chunk of the onion that is for sure it is where it all begins really it is the root of all enslavement then comes control
Dustyash [November 11, 2013 - 10:05 pm]: I hope Ab has Raw again this weekend I always enjoy it hope to see you and everybody else that can get on as well
ArmunnRigh [November 11, 2013 - 10:05 pm]: well, yeah, but in these "plantations" the wardens will always have enough appealing benefits to whip the uncooperative
ArmunnRigh [November 11, 2013 - 10:06 pm]: It is in the wardens that lies the key to society
ArmunnRigh [November 11, 2013 - 10:07 pm]: <a href="http://minutemanpatriot.homestead.com/files/RKBA/TroopsObeyLaws.jpg" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">http://minutemanpatriot.homestead.com/files/RKBA/TroopsObeyLaws.jpg</a>
Dustyash [November 11, 2013 - 10:08 pm]: I see it at my work all the time not the whipping post but very similar to that it is so true nothing has changed and it never will so long as we vote and surrender are liberty
Dustyash [November 11, 2013 - 10:11 pm]: When you vote you are just basically saying I want to continue to be a slave to the system thank you very much
ArmunnRigh [November 11, 2013 - 10:12 pm]: true, yeah, but still the wardens must be convinced to stop being wardens
Dustyash [November 11, 2013 - 10:12 pm]: no matter who it is they have to stick to the agenda
Dustyash [November 11, 2013 - 10:13 pm]: it is the powers that are behind the warden
ArmunnRigh [November 11, 2013 - 10:13 pm]: Yes, but he's the muscle
Dustyash [November 11, 2013 - 10:13 pm]: the warden is just a figure you see on tv
Dustyash [November 11, 2013 - 10:13 pm]: the others you never get to see ever
Dustyash [November 11, 2013 - 10:14 pm]: never ever
ArmunnRigh [November 11, 2013 - 10:14 pm]: Oh by wardens I mean police and military, they are the ones applying the whip :)
Dustyash [November 11, 2013 - 10:14 pm]: yes
Dustyash [November 11, 2013 - 10:14 pm]: it is all mastered for years and years of planning and deception
Dustyash [November 11, 2013 - 10:15 pm]: we know nothing paper or plastic is really our only choice in a matter of speaking
ArmunnRigh [November 11, 2013 - 10:15 pm]: to serve and to protect... whom?
Dustyash [November 11, 2013 - 10:16 pm]: yeah really
ArmunnRigh [November 11, 2013 - 10:19 pm]: check out my post in the forums, about the logos of the two police forces in Portugal
ArmunnRigh [November 11, 2013 - 10:20 pm]: <a href="http://fakeologist.com/forums/topic/symbology-of-portuguese-police-forces/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">http://fakeologist.com/forums/topic/symbology-of-portuguese-police-forces/</a>
Dustyash [November 11, 2013 - 10:25 pm]: Wow I looked at it that appears to be a lot of evil over tones to the shield and what not if you know what I mean the bottom pic has an unside down five pointed star
Dustyash [November 11, 2013 - 10:25 pm]: upside down star on the first pic I mean
ArmunnRigh [November 11, 2013 - 10:26 pm]: It is quite telling
Dustyash [November 11, 2013 - 10:27 pm]: Yeah and I find no matter where you go all police and national guard logos have a very similar type of tone to it in really makes you wonder
ArmunnRigh [November 11, 2013 - 10:28 pm]: well, the Republican National Guard were put together to defend the Republic after the masons assassinated the King.
Dustyash [November 11, 2013 - 10:29 pm]: right
ArmunnRigh [November 11, 2013 - 10:41 pm]: well, I'll catch you later Dusty, off to bed now
Dustyash [November 11, 2013 - 11:21 pm]: okay bye nice talking to you sorry I had some unexpected things to do have a good night
wanda [November 12, 2013 - 8:46 pm]: Ab...you may find this comment from Mami's interesting... it mentions SimonShack, September Clues and pertains to John Friend's interview of Ace Baker... the comment link also links to the show i refer to:  <a href="http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=5440450620561193447&#038;postID=2646338302980056665" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=5440450620561193447&#038;postID=2646338302980056665</a>
Dustyash [November 12, 2013 - 8:50 pm]: Hello
Dustyash [November 12, 2013 - 8:54 pm]: Larken Rose The Complete and undeniable truth hits square in the heart a no holds barre assault on how it is! Very good video thanks wanda for posting that
wanda [November 12, 2013 - 8:59 pm]: Yep... that's why it's my favorite.  Thank you Dash.
ArmunnRigh [November 12, 2013 - 9:00 pm]: So I'm not the only one to notice
wanda [November 12, 2013 - 9:04 pm]: Larken Rose... The Complete and Undeniable Truth:  <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_5mZ5FBHg0A" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_5mZ5FBHg0A</a>
wanda [November 12, 2013 - 9:05 pm]: I just reposted it to my Facebook... those b*stards keep taking the good ones down.
ArmunnRigh [November 12, 2013 - 9:09 pm]: I did listen to Friend's show with Chet Baker (pun)
ArmunnRigh [November 12, 2013 - 9:10 pm]: minute 46 is the cream of the matter
wanda [November 12, 2013 - 9:12 pm]: Thanks... i have not listened.  I'll head over and start at 46 minutes then... i appreciate that.
ArmunnRigh [November 12, 2013 - 9:14 pm]: <a href="http://blogtalk.vo.llnwd.net/o23/show/5/645/show_5645015.mp3" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">http://blogtalk.vo.llnwd.net/o23/show/5/645/show_5645015.mp3</a>
Dustyash [November 12, 2013 - 9:16 pm]: Fakebook can be dangerous
ArmunnRigh [November 12, 2013 - 9:16 pm]: true
Dustyash [November 12, 2013 - 9:17 pm]: Developed by the FBI is my guess for sure they want to think otherwise that it was so kid that invented it in a basement but we know better beware OF facebook SCARY
wanda [November 12, 2013 - 9:17 pm]: Oh, well... in for a dime, in for a dollar.
ArmunnRigh [November 12, 2013 - 9:18 pm]: so, according to Ace, all media video was live and the planes were superimposed from a helicopter feed signal...
Dustyash [November 12, 2013 - 9:18 pm]: some kid invented it in a basement really who really believes that it is amazing isn't
ArmunnRigh [November 12, 2013 - 9:19 pm]: no shit, minute 46
wanda [November 12, 2013 - 9:21 pm]: I just find the comment interesting, how Ace Baker has no cred and how John Friend was giving a fluff interview... of which i find both points to be highly credible.  John Friend is someone who has a vested interest in making a career out of 9-11.
ArmunnRigh [November 12, 2013 - 9:21 pm]: it is interesting!
ArmunnRigh [November 12, 2013 - 9:22 pm]: it's also interesting to hear it from the horse's mouth
wanda [November 12, 2013 - 9:22 pm]: Never look a gift horse in the mouth.
ArmunnRigh [November 12, 2013 - 9:22 pm]: I don't care much for this gift! :D
wanda [November 12, 2013 - 9:23 pm]: So they say... so they would have us believe.  lol
wanda [November 12, 2013 - 9:23 pm]: I say, you'd better have a look inside that mouth.
ArmunnRigh [November 12, 2013 - 9:23 pm]: yuck...
Dustyash [November 12, 2013 - 9:24 pm]: Hey wanda what is that VOX thing all about the unfinished pentagram it is kind of interesting didn't the beatles use VOX amplifers during there hey day of fakery? just a thought anyway
wanda [November 12, 2013 - 9:24 pm]: And 9-11 is getting a might long in the tooth to still be going nowhere... like JFK.
ArmunnRigh [November 12, 2013 - 9:25 pm]: yeah
Dustyash [November 12, 2013 - 9:26 pm]: it has to be fake if it is keeping everybody running in circles
wanda [November 12, 2013 - 9:26 pm]: You're going to have to connect your own dots there, there's no shortage of them.  When i get in a funk i go off on a Tom Waits kick for a few days.  I caught the VOX thing, had a epiphany and posted it to my web site.
Dustyash [November 12, 2013 - 9:26 pm]: no doubt about it period!
Dustyash [November 12, 2013 - 9:27 pm]: Oh cool okay
wanda [November 12, 2013 - 9:29 pm]: The news at 11:11 thing is for posting my epiphanies... i like to share as i learn... that occulted stuff, anyways...
wanda [November 12, 2013 - 9:31 pm]: But yeah, apparently Washington DC is laid out like a VOX... unfinished, and much speculation as to why... so that is why is say draw your own conclusions.  Someone knows what it means, but it ain't me.
Dustyash [November 12, 2013 - 9:31 pm]: I grew up thinking only National Enquirer was fake now I have come to realise that it is possible that most of what we are told in life is the National Enquirer
Dustyash [November 12, 2013 - 9:31 pm]: LOL
wanda [November 12, 2013 - 9:32 pm]: Good point Dash... i wonder.  You might be right... i'll keep my eyes open for the Bat Boy now... LOL.
Dustyash [November 12, 2013 - 9:32 pm]: oh okay I got it interesting
wanda [November 12, 2013 - 9:33 pm]: Awesome you checked out my site... thank you.
ArmunnRigh [November 12, 2013 - 9:33 pm]: This video is really good, Ash
ArmunnRigh [November 12, 2013 - 9:33 pm]: I didn't get to it yet, Wanda
ArmunnRigh [November 12, 2013 - 9:34 pm]: except that article you sent
wanda [November 12, 2013 - 9:34 pm]: Bring it on ARmunn.
Dustyash [November 12, 2013 - 9:34 pm]: which one that Larken Rose one and Wanda your welcome no biggie
ArmunnRigh [November 12, 2013 - 9:34 pm]: yeah the LArken one
wanda [November 12, 2013 - 9:35 pm]: Oh... the complete and undeniable truth... that's my favorite.
Dustyash [November 12, 2013 - 9:35 pm]: yeah it is great stuff boy amazing if people can't wake up to that I am afraid we are doomed I think
ArmunnRigh [November 12, 2013 - 9:35 pm]: I don't like that title, but yeah the video is spot on
wanda [November 12, 2013 - 9:35 pm]: Should be the national anthem of the entire world.
Dustyash [November 12, 2013 - 9:36 pm]: yes for sure
Dustyash [November 12, 2013 - 9:37 pm]: <a href="http://www.whale.to/b/symbols_h.html" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">http://www.whale.to/b/symbols_h.html</a> good site to noodle around on as well in case you haven't already
wanda [November 12, 2013 - 9:37 pm]: It ain't over till it's over Dash.  Damn, i'm just full of chiche's today... i can't stop myself.  I'm on a roll.
wanda [November 12, 2013 - 9:37 pm]: I have been doing it all day... lol.
Dustyash [November 12, 2013 - 9:38 pm]: that is good
wanda [November 12, 2013 - 9:38 pm]: I like whate to... they go off the deep end in places though... be aware.
Dustyash [November 12, 2013 - 9:39 pm]: yeah I know
Dustyash [November 12, 2013 - 9:39 pm]: but some things are good
wanda [November 12, 2013 - 9:39 pm]: So, you've evidently been to the pages where people show you pictures of rocks and claim they are aliens?
wanda [November 12, 2013 - 9:41 pm]: Don't throw the baby out with the bath water though... damn, i did it again !!!
Dustyash [November 12, 2013 - 9:41 pm]: <a href="http://s616.photobucket.com/user/cartamandua/library/911%20Coincidences%20and%20Synchronicity%20in%20ART?sort=3&#038;page=1" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">http://s616.photobucket.com/user/cartamandua/library/911%20Coincidences%20and%20Synchronicity%20in%20ART?sort=3&#038;page=1</a>    this is good too lots of interesting stuff on here 911 happened before it happened?
wanda [November 12, 2013 - 9:42 pm]: There are ways to fold the dollar bill that shows the towers struck by something and smoking... you seen that?
wanda [November 12, 2013 - 9:42 pm]: It's right in your face.
Dustyash [November 12, 2013 - 9:43 pm]: Lots of oodles and doodles poodles of pictures of 911 weird pictures very strange stuff
Dustyash [November 12, 2013 - 9:43 pm]: yes it is
wanda [November 12, 2013 - 9:43 pm]: It's the ultimate foreknowledge.
wanda [November 12, 2013 - 9:44 pm]: I am finding John "Friend" annoying at the moment.
Dustyash [November 12, 2013 - 9:46 pm]: The word that we all have come to know as Psychic Driving preparation for the big day
Dustyash [November 12, 2013 - 9:46 pm]: years and years in advance
Dustyash [November 12, 2013 - 9:48 pm]: <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SdToaJtVNJg" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SdToaJtVNJg</a> If you have not watched this I highly recommend it as well very good video,, On Modern Serivtude
Dustyash [November 12, 2013 - 9:48 pm]: Sevitude
Dustyash [November 12, 2013 - 9:49 pm]: servitude
Dustyash [November 12, 2013 - 9:49 pm]: On Modern Servitude
Dustyash [November 12, 2013 - 9:49 pm]: can't spell today
Dustyash [November 12, 2013 - 9:50 pm]: <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SdToaJtVNJg" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SdToaJtVNJg</a>
ArmunnRigh [November 12, 2013 - 9:52 pm]: @Wanda: by the way, I'm not just picking on YOU in the comments :D
wanda [November 12, 2013 - 9:53 pm]: What did i miss?  I don't feel picked on.  Let me qualify that... i don't feel picked on here in the comments section.
wanda [November 12, 2013 - 9:53 pm]: lol
ArmunnRigh [November 12, 2013 - 9:53 pm]: I was kidding :D
wanda [November 12, 2013 - 9:54 pm]: LOL...
ArmunnRigh [November 12, 2013 - 9:55 pm]: I usually have this thing of stepping into conversations, drop a few remarks and then get everyone silent and staring at me like I spoiled all the fun :D
Dustyash [November 12, 2013 - 9:55 pm]: armunn have you seen this video if not I recommend it I will post it here again for you and wanda and when you have time watch it,, it is great to sit down for this one it is well done <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SdToaJtVNJg" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SdToaJtVNJg</a>
ArmunnRigh [November 12, 2013 - 9:56 pm]: will check it out, Dusty, right after I come back from a coffee refill
Dustyash [November 12, 2013 - 9:56 pm]: okay
Dustyash [November 12, 2013 - 9:57 pm]: On Modern Servitude
wanda [November 12, 2013 - 9:57 pm]: Picked on by life, now that's another story... since i am allergic to food.  Life goes on, i guess, till it doesn't anymore.  Then it's someone else's problem.
Dustyash [November 12, 2013 - 9:58 pm]: we all wonder what happens after you die ?? it is the billion dollar question isn't it
Dustyash [November 12, 2013 - 9:58 pm]: that figure is too small
wanda [November 12, 2013 - 9:59 pm]: For some i guess.  I think its just a change of states.  I am not concerned.
wanda [November 12, 2013 - 9:59 pm]: I'm in no hurry, but i'm not concerned.
Dustyash [November 12, 2013 - 9:59 pm]: it is a wide range of responses
Dustyash [November 12, 2013 - 10:00 pm]: infinate
Dustyash [November 12, 2013 - 10:01 pm]: infinite
wanda [November 12, 2013 - 10:02 pm]: Have you ever had that photo flash thing happen to you where time slows down and you are aware you are probably not going to live through what is happening?  Then, somehow, inexplicably, it is exactly like the hand of God comes out of nowhere and pulls your cookies out of the fire?  I have.
ArmunnRigh [November 12, 2013 - 10:03 pm]: I have, but I felt no hand :D
Dustyash [November 12, 2013 - 10:05 pm]: yeah I can relate to that response Armunn
wanda [November 12, 2013 - 10:05 pm]: I didn't feel a hand either... but i distinctly recall the entire thing and thinking... i'm not going to live through this, but there was no fear, then the only way i can explain it is a hand had to have pulled our car out from under the wheels of that tractor trailor sideways.  And a mere moment before all that happened, in slow motion was this huge, old fashioned, flash cube pop.
Dustyash [November 12, 2013 - 10:06 pm]: you are in for a real treat if you have not watched On Modern Servitude
ArmunnRigh [November 12, 2013 - 10:06 pm]: I am rightnow
ArmunnRigh [November 12, 2013 - 10:06 pm]: I have two monitors
wanda [November 12, 2013 - 10:06 pm]: A big pop and a sizzling sound.  I know someone else this has happened to too.
Dustyash [November 12, 2013 - 10:07 pm]: wow lucky you
Dustyash [November 12, 2013 - 10:07 pm]: must be nice
ArmunnRigh [November 12, 2013 - 10:07 pm]: not lucky - I had to pay for it :D
Dustyash [November 12, 2013 - 10:08 pm]: right yeah nothing is free I know know it all to well
ArmunnRigh [November 12, 2013 - 10:08 pm]: @Wanda: I didn't feel any pop or anything like that
wanda [November 12, 2013 - 10:09 pm]: I didn't feel a pop... i heard it.  You know what old fashioned flash bulbs sound like?
ArmunnRigh [November 12, 2013 - 10:10 pm]: yeah
Dustyash [November 12, 2013 - 10:10 pm]: weird hey strange stuff happens like life itself
ArmunnRigh [November 12, 2013 - 10:10 pm]: nothing like that here
wanda [November 12, 2013 - 10:12 pm]: The guy i date on occasion had the exact same experience... the flash bulb popping sound.  He sailed off the road in between two trees with less than 1/2 and inch on either side of the car.  He got jacked up when he landed, but it is a minopr (?) miracle he hit those trees just right.  He heard the pop and watched it al lin slo-mo.  Me, our car was untouched, not even a scratch... but still i got
wanda [November 12, 2013 - 10:13 pm]: the flash bulb sound and the slow motion... so not caused by injury.
wanda [November 12, 2013 - 10:14 pm]: Something's going on here in this material plane.  I have been shown stuff all my life.
Dustyash [November 12, 2013 - 10:16 pm]: there really is I know kinda know what you mean there is a strong frequency
ArmunnRigh [November 12, 2013 - 10:17 pm]: Well, to me, material or physical is the most important. It's the basis of our existence. It should be our main focus. No-one can philosophize while starving ;)
Dustyash [November 12, 2013 - 10:18 pm]: yes
Dustyash [November 12, 2013 - 10:18 pm]: scary video
Dustyash [November 12, 2013 - 10:18 pm]: very true
wanda [November 12, 2013 - 10:19 pm]: I hear that Armunn.  I just think it's not a choice of 'are we spiritual or material'... the answer is both.
wanda [November 12, 2013 - 10:19 pm]: The answer is all.  Cool, i'm going to watch the video you guys are talking about.
Dustyash [November 12, 2013 - 10:21 pm]: enjoy
Dustyash [November 12, 2013 - 10:21 pm]: I am eating a gluten free cookie not to bad actually
wanda [November 12, 2013 - 10:22 pm]: Got a link?  I only have one monitor so i got about eight windows open and a hot computer.
ArmunnRigh [November 12, 2013 - 10:22 pm]: Wanda: I didn't mean a choice. I meant that my view is that mind is built on body, just like thought is built on physical experience. If there is something like a soul or spirit, it is built on mind, which therefore relies on body. Almost all religions say that spirit was first and then matter manifested it. I say the opposite - it was from matter that spirit emerged, if it exists.
ArmunnRigh [November 12, 2013 - 10:24 pm]: Dusty: I have a bit of trouble with this quote from the modern servitude video: "The things we possess will possess us" - this can be misleading as I think we all need personal possessions.
wanda [November 12, 2013 - 10:24 pm]: I think we are energy evolving... mind is the latest evolutionary step... the neo-cortex.  If the human experiment fails, energy will evolve something better.
ArmunnRigh [November 12, 2013 - 10:25 pm]: Yeah, with those words, I believe you understood my meaning
wanda [November 12, 2013 - 10:25 pm]: But she doesn't do do-overs.  She doesn't make the same mistake twice.  Seen any extincted animals return lately?
wanda [November 12, 2013 - 10:27 pm]: Thanks Armunn.
wanda [November 12, 2013 - 10:28 pm]: So, yeah.  Being human is really quite ripping... we just got to realize we have a parasite among us that looks just like us... acts just like us, but is not us.
wanda [November 12, 2013 - 10:28 pm]: And cut it off.
ArmunnRigh [November 12, 2013 - 10:30 pm]: I probably shouldn't say this, because it may be misinterpreted, but to me, "heaven" is right here.
wanda [November 12, 2013 - 10:30 pm]: That parasite created itself through countless centuries of inbreeding.  That is against nature and now we are living this nightmare reality.
wanda [November 12, 2013 - 10:31 pm]: I agree... this is the most beautiful place there is... it is worth fighting for... and so is humanity.
wanda [November 12, 2013 - 10:32 pm]: A more beautiful place is not imaginable... nor could one construct a more hellish hell.  This is ALL.
ArmunnRigh [November 12, 2013 - 10:35 pm]: well, I have a fertile imagination, I can conceive of a more hellish hell :D
wanda [November 12, 2013 - 10:37 pm]: Holy Christ... someone just pontificated all over the Robin Fisher page.  I tried to read it, but all that relgio mumbo jumbo just equates to bla bla bla to me.
ArmunnRigh [November 12, 2013 - 10:38 pm]: With my previous comments, I accidentally also replied to that one :D
Dustyash [November 12, 2013 - 10:40 pm]: yeah it is important to be objective when watching Modern Servitude
ArmunnRigh [November 12, 2013 - 10:41 pm]: right on, Dusty
Dustyash [November 12, 2013 - 10:41 pm]: sorry I am just watching a video called into the fire about the 2010 G20 summit in Toronto very interesting things that the police do to people is disgusting really
ArmunnRigh [November 12, 2013 - 10:42 pm]: if that's not staged too :D
Dustyash [November 12, 2013 - 10:42 pm]: well yeah not sure could be
wanda [November 12, 2013 - 10:42 pm]: Religious people can never say anything simply... notice that?  Their responses are always pages long... droning on and on and on.  You'd have to have three life times to counter all the schizophreia... by design.  What a farce.
ArmunnRigh [November 12, 2013 - 10:43 pm]: and if you, in one sentence, dismantle an argument, then I'm not reading things right :D
Dustyash [November 12, 2013 - 10:43 pm]: I could not agree more
wanda [November 12, 2013 - 10:43 pm]: I'm fairly succinct, i think.
Dustyash [November 12, 2013 - 10:44 pm]: wanda I agree with your comment
ArmunnRigh [November 12, 2013 - 10:44 pm]: sorry,  didn't explain myself correctly
wanda [November 12, 2013 - 10:44 pm]: Truth is simple.  It is the lies that need confounding... thanks Dash.
ArmunnRigh [November 12, 2013 - 10:44 pm]: if one in one sentence dismantles an argument, then they say one is not reading it right.
Dustyash [November 12, 2013 - 10:45 pm]: Religion is the earliest forms of control it has been a distraction for a long long time
wanda [November 12, 2013 - 10:45 pm]: Oh... right.  They are so indoctrinated, they would be lost without their scriptural scripts.... hmmmm.
Dustyash [November 12, 2013 - 10:45 pm]: it paves the way for politics
ArmunnRigh [November 12, 2013 - 10:46 pm]: Ashes to ashes, dust to dust... shit, that's you they're talking about, Dusty! Run! :D
wanda [November 12, 2013 - 10:46 pm]: Run Dusty, Run.  Don't walk.
wanda [November 12, 2013 - 10:47 pm]: Scriptures are scripts.  Look at that.
Dustyash [November 12, 2013 - 10:47 pm]: but I need to press the button for the crosswalk lol
ArmunnRigh [November 12, 2013 - 10:47 pm]: exactly
ArmunnRigh [November 12, 2013 - 10:48 pm]: @Dusty: LOL
wanda [November 12, 2013 - 10:48 pm]: Yes you do Dusty.  You can't cross till you get the sign.
Dustyash [November 12, 2013 - 10:48 pm]: I still have to follow the rules
wanda [November 12, 2013 - 10:48 pm]: The sign of the cross.
Dustyash [November 12, 2013 - 10:48 pm]: I am just a slave!
Dustyash [November 12, 2013 - 10:48 pm]: forgive me
wanda [November 12, 2013 - 10:49 pm]: My father plays dominos better than your father... Amen.
ArmunnRigh [November 12, 2013 - 10:49 pm]: Oh, you're from ex-Yugoslavia?
wanda [November 12, 2013 - 10:49 pm]: Catholic humor.
Dustyash [November 12, 2013 - 10:50 pm]: I am a full time slave so true whether I like it or not they only tell me what they want me to know
Dustyash [November 12, 2013 - 10:50 pm]: and even that is too much!
ArmunnRigh [November 12, 2013 - 10:51 pm]: don't treat yourself so poorly :P
wanda [November 12, 2013 - 10:52 pm]: You're not a slave and you don't need forgiveness.
Dustyash [November 12, 2013 - 10:52 pm]: I can't help it they won't let me be rich no matter how hard I try
Dustyash [November 12, 2013 - 10:52 pm]: Oh but I am a slave we all are
Dustyash [November 12, 2013 - 10:53 pm]: that is the point
wanda [November 12, 2013 - 10:53 pm]: I'm not a slave.
Dustyash [November 12, 2013 - 10:53 pm]: scary
Dustyash [November 12, 2013 - 10:53 pm]: they tell us nothing and fabricate the rest
columjaddica [November 12, 2013 - 10:54 pm]: I thought this PBF comic looked familiar. Seen a few clown-car gags in the psyops this past year. <a href="http://pbfcomics.com/258/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">http://pbfcomics.com/258/</a>
ArmunnRigh [November 12, 2013 - 10:55 pm]: LOL columjaddica :D
Dustyash [November 12, 2013 - 10:57 pm]: lol
wanda [November 12, 2013 - 10:57 pm]: I like this one... i think you guys can relate:  <a href="http://pbfcomics.com/253/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">http://pbfcomics.com/253/</a>
ArmunnRigh [November 12, 2013 - 10:58 pm]: Are you calling me a donkey? :D
wanda [November 12, 2013 - 10:58 pm]: The offspring may be an ass... but not you... :)
Dustyash [November 12, 2013 - 10:58 pm]: these riots really are fake put there to spin you off police purposely put there to be vandalized?
ArmunnRigh [November 12, 2013 - 10:59 pm]: yup
Dustyash [November 12, 2013 - 10:59 pm]: police cars
wanda [November 12, 2013 - 10:59 pm]: Agree Dusty... they want people to think other places are rising up to defeat their governments... in reality, everyone is most likely pulling away, trying to keep their heads down.
Dustyash [November 12, 2013 - 11:00 pm]: right
columjaddica [November 12, 2013 - 11:01 pm]: Haha PBF has a lot of good ones
wanda [November 12, 2013 - 11:01 pm]: It's just to confound people and instill fear.  What they should be doing is speaking up, learning and teaching.
Dustyash [November 12, 2013 - 11:01 pm]: it is all so cleverly scripted
wanda [November 12, 2013 - 11:01 pm]: They do CJ
ArmunnRigh [November 12, 2013 - 11:01 pm]: and yet, they're not as clever as they portray themselves
Dustyash [November 12, 2013 - 11:02 pm]: no right
wanda [November 12, 2013 - 11:02 pm]: I agree Armunn.
wanda [November 12, 2013 - 11:03 pm]: You're preaching to the choir Dash... damn, another cliche.
wanda [November 12, 2013 - 11:04 pm]: I detect a little bit of the NLP in those comics CJ...
wanda [November 12, 2013 - 11:04 pm]: And by a little, i mean a lot.
Dustyash [November 12, 2013 - 11:04 pm]: anyway back to the slave cave I guess lol
columjaddica [November 12, 2013 - 11:05 pm]: I don't know much about NLP but I kinda interpreted it that the guy noticed the change in tone of the news and was making light of it
columjaddica [November 12, 2013 - 11:05 pm]: But I don't know his intent
Dustyash [November 12, 2013 - 11:07 pm]: me and Banazir were talking and what if your parents didn't sign up at the hospital for a birth certificate when you were born would you end up in jail or it is enslavement as soon as you are born it is the grand system really no escape what would happen interesting thought
ArmunnRigh [November 12, 2013 - 11:08 pm]: before birth certificates there were baptism certificates
Dustyash [November 12, 2013 - 11:08 pm]: but again that is religion it is a form of control
wanda [November 12, 2013 - 11:08 pm]: It is supposed to be by consent... pretty sure it still is.
columjaddica [November 12, 2013 - 11:08 pm]: Sometimes I wonder exactly how many people in the US are aware that most news is fake. I think that the numbers are growing at a faster rate (if not just because they are seemingly trying to make it obvious). Then I wonder how many people are discovering this stuff and deciding they want to be a part of it...
ArmunnRigh [November 12, 2013 - 11:08 pm]: my point
Dustyash [November 12, 2013 - 11:08 pm]: there is no escape HAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA LOL
ArmunnRigh [November 12, 2013 - 11:09 pm]: chill Dusty
Dustyash [November 12, 2013 - 11:09 pm]: lots of laughs it is entertaining
Dustyash [November 12, 2013 - 11:09 pm]: but a good question tho
Dustyash [November 12, 2013 - 11:10 pm]: locked in a cage of freedom
wanda [November 12, 2013 - 11:10 pm]: CJ - i am here in the states and i really couldn't tell you.  It is growing... but there's a lot of fear and confusion, and sickness and poverty... and corruption.
Dustyash [November 12, 2013 - 11:10 pm]: I agree
Dustyash [November 12, 2013 - 11:11 pm]: confusion is the big one I think and fear together combined is putting the brakes on in a matter of speaking
wanda [November 12, 2013 - 11:11 pm]: Yeah Dash... i think it's getting to the point it will burst into exponential... the decline will accelerate like wild fire... i fail to see how anything different can come about at this point.
columjaddica [November 12, 2013 - 11:12 pm]: One thing I think about is the new generation told to "follow their dreams". A large number went to school in "fun" industries relating to media production or public relations. Kids getting these degrees then moving from the farm to the city. No jobs, but then a program starts that necessitates the production of a large amount of fake media.
Dustyash [November 12, 2013 - 11:13 pm]: the first answer really is people need to stop voting to start with that is the first key of knowledge
columjaddica [November 12, 2013 - 11:13 pm]: Story after story the bystanders all have large social media profiles and careers in media production.
wanda [November 12, 2013 - 11:13 pm]: Mmm hmm, told to follow their dreams and those dreams they will follow are the ones programmed into them through talmud vision.
ArmunnRigh [November 12, 2013 - 11:14 pm]: baseline stories
columjaddica [November 12, 2013 - 11:14 pm]: I'm getting so tired of explaining why I don't vote and why I avoid paperwork of any type, even when it benefits me.
Dustyash [November 12, 2013 - 11:14 pm]: stop voting and stop watching tv
Dustyash [November 12, 2013 - 11:14 pm]: it is simple
columjaddica [November 12, 2013 - 11:14 pm]: done and done
ArmunnRigh [November 12, 2013 - 11:15 pm]: TV? Oh it's that mirror I have in my living room, right
wanda [November 12, 2013 - 11:15 pm]: So simple a child could do it?
ArmunnRigh [November 12, 2013 - 11:15 pm]: :D
Dustyash [November 12, 2013 - 11:15 pm]: we really need to look at that stop giving power to these horrible leaders if you call them leaders
wanda [November 12, 2013 - 11:16 pm]: you're preaching to the choir again dash.
ArmunnRigh [November 12, 2013 - 11:17 pm]: come on Wanda, let him vent! :)
ArmunnRigh [November 12, 2013 - 11:17 pm]: the oppression of women, heh Dusty? :D
Dustyash [November 12, 2013 - 11:17 pm]: I don't want to be a slave anymore but the more people vote the more we summit ourselves to be enslaved it does not do me or anybody for that matter any favors
wanda [November 12, 2013 - 11:17 pm]: Who among us chatting right now has a t.v. and/or votes?
ArmunnRigh [November 12, 2013 - 11:18 pm]: I have a TV
Dustyash [November 12, 2013 - 11:18 pm]: I don't vote can't remember the last time I did actually
wanda [November 12, 2013 - 11:18 pm]: Let me quote you Armunn:  chill Dusty.
columjaddica [November 12, 2013 - 11:18 pm]: I just moved and I am unfortunate enough to be in a home that has a television running most of the time
wanda [November 12, 2013 - 11:18 pm]: What do you use your t.v. for?
ArmunnRigh [November 12, 2013 - 11:19 pm]: It's a pretty nice mirror
wanda [November 12, 2013 - 11:19 pm]: I can't be around t.v.  I yell at the tell a vision... i can't stop myself.
Dustyash [November 12, 2013 - 11:19 pm]: Politics is like religion I never wanted anything to do with either one of them early on in age far back as I can remember don't know why I just knew I will not go there
ArmunnRigh [November 12, 2013 - 11:19 pm]: please film yourself in a TV store :D
columjaddica [November 12, 2013 - 11:20 pm]: As for voting, my first election was 2000. I voted for Nader (I was young), but hoped Gore would win (realistically). That was a nice psyop and I've never been happy with the results of any election since.
wanda [November 12, 2013 - 11:20 pm]: I always flip the sets the bird when i walk past them.
ArmunnRigh [November 12, 2013 - 11:20 pm]: :D
ArmunnRigh [November 12, 2013 - 11:21 pm]: well, the object itself is not the problem, really
wanda [November 12, 2013 - 11:21 pm]: its true.
ArmunnRigh [November 12, 2013 - 11:21 pm]: like the computer you're using now
Dustyash [November 12, 2013 - 11:21 pm]: everything is the same all the time it never changes
wanda [November 12, 2013 - 11:23 pm]: Yeah, i know.  But that was then... the tele-vive does not have any redeeming qualities today.
Dustyash [November 12, 2013 - 11:23 pm]: get up make it to work on time pay your taxes and pick the cotton and obey the rules it never changes
columjaddica [November 12, 2013 - 11:24 pm]: So they are describing this typhoon in the Phillipines as a "super-typhoon". Looking back at "Superstorm Sandy" it appears as if it was a massive insurance fraud, which was allowed because it supported weather propaganda.
columjaddica [November 12, 2013 - 11:24 pm]: I haven't had a chance to look into it but is the typhoon media looking realistic?
wanda [November 12, 2013 - 11:24 pm]: You're not the only one singing that tune to Uni-Verse.  When the music reaches a crescendo... there will be a change.
Dustyash [November 12, 2013 - 11:25 pm]: well we will see
wanda [November 12, 2013 - 11:25 pm]: nobody knows... not us, not them.
wanda [November 12, 2013 - 11:26 pm]: all we can do is strive for our side...
wanda [November 12, 2013 - 11:26 pm]: pick a side, any side, but don't get caught in the middle.
columjaddica [November 12, 2013 - 11:27 pm]: Not that there was no damage or no storm from Sandy but some weather stories are looking like they might be over-exaggerated and have other problems.
Dustyash [November 12, 2013 - 11:28 pm]: yeah could be
wanda [November 12, 2013 - 11:28 pm]: as usual.  it's friggin weather for pete's sake.
ArmunnRigh [November 12, 2013 - 11:29 pm]: one day we'll see this in the weather news: "Breaking news: Catastrophe has struck Scotland as heavy rain poured all day today" :D
Dustyash [November 12, 2013 - 11:29 pm]: could weather be controlled ?
columjaddica [November 12, 2013 - 11:30 pm]: I moved to Colorado a few months before the flooding. That did cause widespread damage in the mountains where I am, washed out roads and shoulders, rock slides, but what we were getting on our cell phones on the worst night about a "30 foot wall of water and cars" going down a canyon that empties into Boulder canyon was obviously fake.
wanda [November 12, 2013 - 11:31 pm]: No... weather can not be controlled.  It can be manipulated, but not controlled.  It is a force of nature... a force of that witch created us... you can't trump that.
columjaddica [November 12, 2013 - 11:31 pm]: I believe they modify the weather in some way but I don't know what the effect is other than obviously reducing light getting through (increased albedo, light reflected off of the atmosphere.
wanda [November 12, 2013 - 11:32 pm]: Boulder area?  I lived in Colorado for 27 years.
columjaddica [November 12, 2013 - 11:33 pm]: Basically, everything I saw here in Colorado with my own eyes didn't approach the seriousness that the news said. People are thinking about FEMA-bucks and down in the flatland at the base of the mountains they continue to build cheap but expensive McMansions on flood plains.
columjaddica [November 12, 2013 - 11:33 pm]: The areas around Gunbarrel got the worst flooding supposedly and there's a lot of cheap new construction there
Dustyash [November 12, 2013 - 11:33 pm]: I buy that for sure it never is as bad as they say good one
columjaddica [November 12, 2013 - 11:34 pm]: Yeah, I just moved here from Michigan. I'm around 8,000 ft and not far 9down the canyon) from Boulder
Dustyash [November 12, 2013 - 11:34 pm]: they want fear attached to the stories they deliver
wanda [November 12, 2013 - 11:34 pm]: I used to raft a lot... around the Arkansas river.  Saw a lot of high water... water that was higher than the banks... that's something to see.  Like when you overfill a glass of water, just before it overflows, it is above the rim of the glass.
columjaddica [November 12, 2013 - 11:34 pm]: Also, I flew recently and leaving Denver International airport on the bus to Boulder there were signs (Stop the rain tax). I looked into this and it is some new kind of tax relating to drainage.
ArmunnRigh [November 12, 2013 - 11:34 pm]: <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eBqzxUP1Zgw" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eBqzxUP1Zgw</a> :D
columjaddica [November 12, 2013 - 11:35 pm]: Of course that makes you think about the recent heavy rain here which was very out of the ordinary for how things have been since the chemtrails started.
wanda [November 12, 2013 - 11:38 pm]: I guess, in Ireland they got tiny windows because they were taxed on the size of their windows.  We got to stop letting psychopaths call the shots.
wanda [November 12, 2013 - 11:38 pm]: Loved that video Armunn... the value you get from watching news... and that's all she wrote.
ArmunnRigh [November 12, 2013 - 11:39 pm]: :D so funny
wanda [November 12, 2013 - 11:40 pm]: I lived in Breckenridge... all 27 years.  9,600 feet.  Nothing grows there but pine trees, aspens and cotton woods...
wanda [November 12, 2013 - 11:40 pm]: I was never so glad to get out of that goddam place.
columjaddica [November 12, 2013 - 11:41 pm]: Yeah it's mostly pine and aspen and willow here. Hell, go to 10,500 and you're not far from the tree-line. I actually like it here in Colorado though, at least up in the mountains, but man it's different than where I came from. Still adjusting
Dustyash [November 12, 2013 - 11:42 pm]: I like bill hicks funny guy too bad he died only the good die young
wanda [November 12, 2013 - 11:43 pm]: Maybe he's dead... maybe he's Alex Jones.  I can't rule it out.
wanda [November 12, 2013 - 11:43 pm]: He looks just like him... and anyone can do an AJ voice... even me.  Deader than a hammer folks.
columjaddica [November 12, 2013 - 11:44 pm]: I like Bill Hicks too. Although I think he fits into "demoralization" as per Yuri Bezmenov
columjaddica [November 12, 2013 - 11:44 pm]: And BTW I read that Alex Jones thing years ago and it's been my favorite fare-shot theory for a long time. When people just want to talk strange theories I always bring that one up
columjaddica [November 12, 2013 - 11:44 pm]: I don't think it's true but who knows?
ArmunnRigh [November 12, 2013 - 11:45 pm]: I agree, he's demoralization. It's funny, still
wanda [November 12, 2013 - 11:45 pm]: Precisely.  What's a fare-shot?
wanda [November 12, 2013 - 11:47 pm]: I'm still thinking over that script/scriptures thing.  They are scripts... that is all.
wanda [November 12, 2013 - 11:47 pm]: And scripts are fiction.
ArmunnRigh [November 12, 2013 - 11:47 pm]: «and Jesus was just acting all sexy and stuff» - Dusty :D
wanda [November 12, 2013 - 11:47 pm]: Not to mention queer.
wanda [November 12, 2013 - 11:48 pm]: lol... i've seen that one.
wanda [November 12, 2013 - 11:48 pm]: Cult of Dusty... DustyAsh, you familiar with Cult of Dusty?
ArmunnRigh [November 12, 2013 - 11:49 pm]: «and the guy from counting crows was goin "Mr Jones and me" and then they cut of his head» :D
Dustyash [November 12, 2013 - 11:49 pm]: the late great George Carlin has some good stuff too
ArmunnRigh [November 12, 2013 - 11:49 pm]: yeah, dusty
Dustyash [November 12, 2013 - 11:51 pm]: My cat Earl is tired as usual
Dustyash [November 12, 2013 - 11:51 pm]: same with gizmo
Dustyash [November 12, 2013 - 11:51 pm]: another cat
Dustyash [November 12, 2013 - 11:51 pm]: goofy guys I love them
ArmunnRigh [November 12, 2013 - 11:54 pm]: I'm still to get over my dog, she dies about two weeks ago...
ArmunnRigh [November 12, 2013 - 11:54 pm]: *died
wanda [November 12, 2013 - 11:55 pm]: I still can't get over my bird Pink.  She died about 15 years ago.  I still have her mate Jerry... he's 18 now.
Dustyash [November 12, 2013 - 11:55 pm]: oh that is sad
wanda [November 12, 2013 - 11:56 pm]: I always think she should still be with us.
Dustyash [November 12, 2013 - 11:56 pm]: I don't know what I would do with out my little kitties
wanda [November 12, 2013 - 11:56 pm]: I don't know what my birds would do without me.
wanda [November 12, 2013 - 11:59 pm]: Wow... check out this cartoon:  <a href="http://pbfcomics.com/249/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">http://pbfcomics.com/249/</a>
wanda [November 13, 2013 - 12:04 am]: LOL... <a href="http://pbfcomics.com/233/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">http://pbfcomics.com/233/</a>
ArmunnRigh [November 13, 2013 - 12:09 am]: I saw nothing wrong with that blurr there, did I miss something?? :D:D
ArmunnRigh [November 13, 2013 - 12:14 am]: ok, guys, I'll see you tomorrow. Going to call it a night
Dustyash [November 13, 2013 - 12:15 am]: before you go here is one more video <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mnFUDVpFwFQ" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mnFUDVpFwFQ</a>
Dustyash [November 13, 2013 - 12:16 am]: enjoy and this is by Alan Watts not ALAN WATT
ArmunnRigh [November 13, 2013 - 12:16 am]: yes, I know Alan Watts' work well
Dustyash [November 13, 2013 - 12:17 am]: yeah he is great Bruce Lee loved his work as well
Dustyash [November 13, 2013 - 12:17 am]: good video tho
Dustyash [November 13, 2013 - 12:18 am]: not very long
Dustyash [November 13, 2013 - 12:18 am]: what if money was no object
ArmunnRigh [November 13, 2013 - 12:18 am]: I know this speech. I heard it years ago. Thanks Dusty!
ArmunnRigh [November 13, 2013 - 12:19 am]: A fine thought to bring to the pillow
wanda [November 13, 2013 - 12:19 am]: nite... i'm hitting it too.
Dustyash [November 13, 2013 - 12:20 am]: hookie dookie same here have a great day all we can do is hope cheers
ArmunnRigh [November 13, 2013 - 12:21 am]: see ya guys!
ArmunnRigh [November 13, 2013 - 11:50 am]: @wanda: Hey there! And is context always objective? :)
wanda [November 13, 2013 - 12:04 pm]: No... it is not.  But it gives you a better perspective of what you're dealing with.
ArmunnRigh [November 13, 2013 - 12:05 pm]: For sure, but that was not the point brought up by Herge :D
wanda [November 13, 2013 - 12:06 pm]: Hay... someone recommended that i watch Caesar's Messiah.  I'm partway through it now... good perspectives there:  <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0aSKN0xnfsA&#038;list=WLRKyJX8KQmpsHooVKTqyd0epnFzcbSQeL" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0aSKN0xnfsA&#038;list=WLRKyJX8KQmpsHooVKTqyd0epnFzcbSQeL</a>
ArmunnRigh [November 13, 2013 - 12:07 pm]: Yeah, I watched it already - some good info, but it still doesn't go deep enough!
ArmunnRigh [November 13, 2013 - 12:07 pm]: Check out my latest forum post, Wanda, if you like. It's related.
wanda [November 13, 2013 - 12:08 pm]: Perhaps not Armunn... but we got to take people in baby steps.  I can see how this can be very enlightening for one caught up in the Jesus illusion.  Did not know you had a forum... link please...
wanda [November 13, 2013 - 12:08 pm]: Oh, do you mean forum here?
ArmunnRigh [November 13, 2013 - 12:09 pm]: yeah
ArmunnRigh [November 13, 2013 - 12:09 pm]: forum here
wanda [November 13, 2013 - 12:09 pm]: Which one?
ArmunnRigh [November 13, 2013 - 12:09 pm]: other psyops
wanda [November 13, 2013 - 12:09 pm]: cool... i'm there.
ArmunnRigh [November 13, 2013 - 12:10 pm]: you're right about the baby steps, I should have ended with "for me"
wanda [November 13, 2013 - 12:15 pm]: Yeah, well, our problem isn't you... our problem is people under the spell of illusion/illusury... lol.  I am going to need a link... i'm confounded... i can't find it and i somehow engaged a video that's conflicting with the sound of Caesars Messiah...
ArmunnRigh [November 13, 2013 - 12:16 pm]: in your good article "Jeovah is a dick" I think you prove my point about symbolism as I replied to Herge: «Organ-ized religions... all of them, no exceptions... are anything but organic... they are organ-eye-zed... A (alpha) is the first letter of the alphabet... A represents the first step.  Z (zed) is the last... follow?  You shouldn't.  You will not find them in nature...»
ArmunnRigh [November 13, 2013 - 12:17 pm]: I think you might be in the wrong forum post
ArmunnRigh [November 13, 2013 - 12:17 pm]: <a href="http://fakeologist.com/forums/topic/false-oppositioner/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">http://fakeologist.com/forums/topic/false-oppositioner/</a>
wanda [November 13, 2013 - 12:18 pm]: I think so.  Thank you Armunn.  I am honored you find value in my work.  I try very hard to to see things as they truly are... and to communicate it in simple terms... not that you require the simplicity.
Tom-Dalpra [November 13, 2013 - 12:32 pm]: just read that article and gave it a comment. Yes mate. Very good. I agree.
Tom-Dalpra [November 13, 2013 - 12:34 pm]: I think your stuff is good too Wanda. You understand  how written into our language the control is. I get that. your stuff is stimulating and  interesting to read .
ArmunnRigh [November 13, 2013 - 12:36 pm]: Thanks, Tom. I'm trying to clarify an important aspect before more and more people go into another dead-end
Tom-Dalpra [November 13, 2013 - 12:39 pm]: It would seem to me to be very important. It's like the original false model.
wanda [November 13, 2013 - 1:04 pm]: Thank you Tom... you validate that i am effective in my communication... that is meaningful... i appreciate it.
wanda [November 13, 2013 - 1:05 pm]: Read it Armunn and commented... i agree with everything Tom said, and here is my comment:  That’s amazing Armunn. While i understand that the God/Satan meme is merely aspects of self… arcs and angles, i would not have made the connection between the Gods on Earth ad AJ if not for your article, but of course, that is what we are looking at.

You have a distinct knack for bringing it all back to
wanda [November 13, 2013 - 1:07 pm]: 0… well done. Thanks for the lesson.

The compass and scribe… one makes arcs, the other makes angles… Archangels. Gnosis… no/is.
wanda [November 13, 2013 - 1:07 pm]: Go Spell...
wanda [November 13, 2013 - 1:07 pm]: God Spell...
ArmunnRigh [November 13, 2013 - 1:09 pm]: Thanks Wanda. Don't the british usually also say "Godspeed" and "By Jove"? :D
wanda [November 13, 2013 - 1:11 pm]: They did too... :)
ArmunnRigh [November 13, 2013 - 1:13 pm]: and then from Jove we get jovial - he's just laughing his ass off at their expense :)
ArmunnRigh [November 13, 2013 - 1:18 pm]: @Wanda check your email, if you can, please
wanda [November 13, 2013 - 1:37 pm]: Got it... thanks.
ArmunnRigh [November 13, 2013 - 1:56 pm]: ;)
wanda [November 13, 2013 - 2:15 pm]: Caesar's Messiah is really quite good.
wanda [November 13, 2013 - 2:16 pm]: Thank you Armunn.
wanda [November 13, 2013 - 2:17 pm]: Educated readers were expected to see another meaning in the biblical texts... not so today... today they are expected breathe life into myth...
ArmunnRigh [November 13, 2013 - 2:24 pm]: I would say that today we're supposed to trash the myth altogether, first and foremost
ArmunnRigh [November 13, 2013 - 2:43 pm]: <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch_popup?v=vuEQixrBKCc" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/watch_popup?v=vuEQixrBKCc</a>
ArmunnRigh [November 13, 2013 - 2:43 pm]: :D
wanda [November 13, 2013 - 2:55 pm]: I agree... wholeheartedly.
wanda [November 13, 2013 - 2:56 pm]: It is all aspects of self...
ArmunnRigh [November 13, 2013 - 3:09 pm]: George Carlin is in all aspects of self? (kidding :D)
ArmunnRigh [November 13, 2013 - 5:26 pm]: The Great American PsyOpera: 9/11, The Musical
wanda [November 13, 2013 - 9:36 pm]: I just tried this... it is very tasty actually. It is an all natural product even though you got to get it at a hardware store. Will fix many things... Infections: fungal, bacterial, viral, candida (yeast)... w/kill tuberculosis... excellent pain killer and can put the lead back in your pencil. Always use with a carrier like honey, oil such a coconut or olive or sugar cube.

Be sure to watch the v
wanda [November 13, 2013 - 9:37 pm]: Be sure to watch the video for all the beneficial properties and methods of use... this is the wisdom of our ancestors. They were pretty healthy people, unlike us.  <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U7ZPpaGmOw0" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U7ZPpaGmOw0</a>
wanda [November 13, 2013 - 9:38 pm]: Healing with Turpentine... no so freaky after all.  Beat the high cost of medicine and/or medical incompetence.
ab [November 13, 2013 - 9:56 pm]: @wanda: thanks Wanda for the props on the Ace thing.
ab [November 13, 2013 - 9:57 pm]: Fetzer is on <a href="http://www.therealnewsonline.com/dose-of-reality-radio-show.html" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">http://www.therealnewsonline.com/dose-of-reality-radio-show.html</a> now
LusitAna [November 13, 2013 - 10:10 pm]: @Wanda: isn't it a solvent, sort of like dmso?
LusitAna [November 13, 2013 - 10:15 pm]: dmso is also known as a carrier.
ArmunnRigh [November 13, 2013 - 11:27 pm]: I'm listening to Fetzer's interview on Brian Staveley live - DustyAsh: props for your steel testicles, man! Telling Fetzer JFK didn't happen is the mark of a true male - <a href="http://www.automation-drive.com/EX/05-14-11/balls%2520of%2520steel%2520hood%2520sized%2520copy.jpg" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">http://www.automation-drive.com/EX/05-14-11/balls%2520of%2520steel%2520hood%2520sized%2520copy.jpg</a>
wanda [November 14, 2013 - 4:37 am]: LusitAna... yes.  I am impressed, most people don't make the Turpentine DMSO connection.  Same deal... the highly beneficial properties of trees.  Turpentine tastes just like you would imagine a pine tree would and is not bad tasting at all, with a honey carrier.  I don't like DMSO so much because that garlic feel/taste is a bit much, but you don't get any of that with the Turpentine.
wanda [November 14, 2013 - 4:41 am]: We are both using carrier in different contexts.  I've not looked farther into Turpentine, but i would imagine it would work in pretty much the same way.  I have used it topically too, does not give the taste of garlic thing that DMSO does... so that's good.
wanda [November 14, 2013 - 4:43 am]: No problem Ab... i hope the moon thing doesn't get out of hand for you.
wanda [November 14, 2013 - 4:46 am]: Wow... i was being redundant... i was repeating myself... saying the same thing over and over again.  Sorry about that, i just woke up... :)
ab [November 14, 2013 - 8:20 am]: Thanks fellow fakeologists with your comments on <a href="http://fakeologist.com/2013/11/13/building-a-better-moon-hoax-thread/#comments" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">http://fakeologist.com/2013/11/13/building-a-better-moon-hoax-thread/#comments</a> they are all good suggestions.
ab [November 14, 2013 - 8:20 am]: So great that we have so many females online here.
aybesea [November 14, 2013 - 9:13 am]: Ab, your site sucks:D:P:P
aybesea [November 14, 2013 - 9:14 am]: :P:P:P:-(
ArmunnRigh [November 14, 2013 - 3:14 pm]: The same crew who did the 9/11 footage as went on and made a career. Here's some more of their fine animation and acting work: <a href="http://youtu.be/FEokEOezF7o?t=4m25s" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">http://youtu.be/FEokEOezF7o?t=4m25s</a>
ArmunnRigh [November 14, 2013 - 3:14 pm]: *has
ArmunnRigh [November 14, 2013 - 3:16 pm]: hey there Simon! check out the link i just posted here on the chat :D
ArmunnRigh [November 14, 2013 - 3:16 pm]: The same crew who did the 9/11 footage as went on and made a career. Here's some more of their fine animation and acting work: <a href="http://youtu.be/FEokEOezF7o?t=4m25s" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">http://youtu.be/FEokEOezF7o?t=4m25s</a>
JohnnyClues [November 14, 2013 - 3:40 pm]: @ArmunnRigh: tried to check the vid above, but Canada is banned to watch.....says " this video is not available in your country"
ArmunnRigh [November 14, 2013 - 3:45 pm]: LOL
ArmunnRigh [November 14, 2013 - 3:47 pm]: @JohnnyClues: skype?
wanda [November 14, 2013 - 7:04 pm]: Us little children in the USofA are too young to be allowed that video too.  How comforting Uncle Sam is looking out for us in such a caring way.
wanda [November 14, 2013 - 7:04 pm]: I feel so safe, so loved.
ArmunnRigh [November 14, 2013 - 7:05 pm]: USofa? Stand up! :D
wanda [November 14, 2013 - 7:05 pm]: That's a good one.
ArmunnRigh [November 14, 2013 - 7:05 pm]: @wanda: <a href="https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/1120409/Birdemic%20-%20Best%20scenes%20from%20the%20worst%20film%20ever%20made.mp4" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/1120409/Birdemic%20-%20Best%20scenes%20from%20the%20worst%20film%20ever%20made.mp4</a> - watch from 4:25
wanda [November 14, 2013 - 7:20 pm]: LOL... WTF?
ArmunnRigh [November 14, 2013 - 7:20 pm]: :D
ArmunnRigh [November 14, 2013 - 7:20 pm]: Those images will haunt you for the rest of your days! &gt;:-D
ArmunnRigh [November 14, 2013 - 7:21 pm]: from the same animators as 9/11
wanda [November 14, 2013 - 7:22 pm]: Those bird sound will haunt me...
ArmunnRigh [November 14, 2013 - 7:22 pm]: birds with WW2 airplanes sounds
ArmunnRigh [November 14, 2013 - 7:22 pm]: priceless
wanda [November 14, 2013 - 7:24 pm]: I am not doing well today.  I think massive die off from the Turpentine yesterday.
wanda [November 14, 2013 - 7:24 pm]: That's a good thing, actually.
ArmunnRigh [November 14, 2013 - 7:24 pm]: That's a subject more for Ana than me :?
wanda [November 14, 2013 - 7:25 pm]: Well... i only mention it because i just woke up.  Was out for a while, it was exhausting, got home and thought i'd take a short nap... turned into a five hour nap.  And i'm still tired.
ArmunnRigh [November 14, 2013 - 7:26 pm]: yeah, I know the kind
wanda [November 14, 2013 - 7:27 pm]: So, what was that video about?  What are we not supposed to see?
ArmunnRigh [November 14, 2013 - 7:27 pm]: ??
wanda [November 14, 2013 - 7:28 pm]: The one you invited Johnny Clues on to see... is Johnny Clues Simon Shack?
wanda [November 14, 2013 - 7:28 pm]: on SKYPE... sorry.
ArmunnRigh [November 14, 2013 - 7:28 pm]: no, no
ArmunnRigh [November 14, 2013 - 7:29 pm]: it's the same video I showed you and it was a joke... I said it was the same animators and actors as in 9/11, as a joke
ArmunnRigh [November 14, 2013 - 7:29 pm]: as you can see the animations are VERY GOOD
wanda [November 14, 2013 - 7:29 pm]: Johnny is not Simon?  Does Simon come on here to chat.
ArmunnRigh [November 14, 2013 - 7:29 pm]: he did come into the site and replied to one of the posts, but he didn't chat no
ArmunnRigh [November 14, 2013 - 7:30 pm]: he was online when I mentioned him, but no reply
wanda [November 14, 2013 - 7:30 pm]: Oh... so, i didn't miss anything.  And they got some of the finest actors too.
ArmunnRigh [November 14, 2013 - 7:30 pm]: Oscar material
wanda [November 14, 2013 - 7:31 pm]: Oscar... you know what that's shaped like right?
ArmunnRigh [November 14, 2013 - 7:32 pm]: I have an idea, yeah... :D
wanda [November 14, 2013 - 7:32 pm]: I wonder if there's a subliminal message in that for the "actors".
wanda [November 14, 2013 - 7:32 pm]: I kind of feel the same way... they can go Oscar themselves.
ArmunnRigh [November 14, 2013 - 7:33 pm]: and they hold it so tenderly in their hands when they take it :D
wanda [November 14, 2013 - 7:33 pm]: LOL
wanda [November 14, 2013 - 7:34 pm]: They Oscared every one else.
Bootleg_Bill [November 14, 2013 - 7:35 pm]: <a href="http://www.america2050.org/megaregions.html" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">http://www.america2050.org/megaregions.html</a>
wanda [November 14, 2013 - 7:36 pm]: More news... mo news is good news.
Bootleg_Bill [November 14, 2013 - 7:36 pm]: <a href="http://www.disneylandclub33.com/stories1.htm" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">http://www.disneylandclub33.com/stories1.htm</a>
wanda [November 14, 2013 - 7:37 pm]: My sister and i were out today, we turned around i a church parking lot... ahead was a grave yard a sign with an arrow that said Parish.  We looked at each other and said Perish.
ArmunnRigh [November 14, 2013 - 7:41 pm]: did it work?
Bootleg_Bill [November 14, 2013 - 7:44 pm]: <a href="http://www.america2050.org/images/2050_Map_Megaregions2008_150.png" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">http://www.america2050.org/images/2050_Map_Megaregions2008_150.png</a>
ArmunnRigh [November 14, 2013 - 7:44 pm]: well, in europe we already have the EU
ArmunnRigh [November 14, 2013 - 7:44 pm]: :(
JohnnyClues [November 14, 2013 - 7:46 pm]: @ArmunnRigh: just watched that video....interesting.....still better acting than sandy hook
ArmunnRigh [November 14, 2013 - 7:46 pm]: Yeah :D
ArmunnRigh [November 14, 2013 - 7:47 pm]: but the animators were clearly the same
ArmunnRigh [November 14, 2013 - 7:47 pm]: :D
wanda [November 14, 2013 - 7:52 pm]: What the hell... I'm BACK...
ArmunnRigh [November 14, 2013 - 7:52 pm]: Welcome back! :)
wanda [November 14, 2013 - 7:53 pm]: Thank you Armunn
ArmunnRigh [November 14, 2013 - 7:53 pm]: that crash was god's punishment for your sin today
wanda [November 14, 2013 - 7:53 pm]: I shall Parrish.
ArmunnRigh [November 14, 2013 - 7:57 pm]: @wanda: email
Bootleg_Bill [November 14, 2013 - 8:05 pm]: <a href="http://www.cfr.org/global-governance/cfr-convenes-council-councils-linking-leading-foreign-policy-institutes-around-world/p27612" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">http://www.cfr.org/global-governance/cfr-convenes-council-councils-linking-leading-foreign-policy-institutes-around-world/p27612</a>
wanda [November 14, 2013 - 8:10 pm]: Was it something i said?
ArmunnRigh [November 14, 2013 - 8:10 pm]: ?
wanda [November 14, 2013 - 8:10 pm]: you got mail... lol
wanda [November 14, 2013 - 8:12 pm]: Bill... all those three letter agencies have got to go... and the four letter, and the two letter... and the....
Bootleg_Bill [November 14, 2013 - 8:15 pm]: The defining foreign policy challenges of the twenty-first century are global in nature. The Council of Councils draws on the best thinking from around the world to assess emerging threats and opportunities and formulate responses to them."
ArmunnRigh [November 14, 2013 - 8:16 pm]: indeed the challenge is global: these maggots are everywhere!
Bootleg_Bill [November 14, 2013 - 8:16 pm]: @wanda.  yes.
wanda [November 14, 2013 - 8:21 pm]: Literally everywhere.
wanda [November 14, 2013 - 8:23 pm]: Kind of bummed today.  The chem-trailer had a sense of what he was doing... he put a big X in the sky.  Gave me an opportunity to get people to look up.  I asked one couple "do you know what chem trails are?"  "No."  - then the doe in the headlight look... that was a drag.  They sure know now though.
ArmunnRigh [November 14, 2013 - 8:25 pm]: Almost every day I see the sky crisscrossed here
wanda [November 14, 2013 - 8:26 pm]: Gods on earth... and most people behaving like cattle, so they deserve it... WTF.  They are hitting us bad here in upstate NY.  Didn't used to be this way up till this year.
wanda [November 14, 2013 - 8:28 pm]: Up in Breckenridge Colorado, when i lived there and for years... it was some of the worse trailing i'd ever experienced, and it was every day, nearly, for over four years.  No wonder i'm experiencing overload now.  I got sick right after a particular heave spray her about a month, month and a half ago now.  It was so bad, i commented to a friend... we both got sick... he got better.
ArmunnRigh [November 14, 2013 - 8:29 pm]: it's f'd up indeed
wanda [November 14, 2013 - 8:29 pm]: Build you home hospital now.
wanda [November 14, 2013 - 8:30 pm]: I plan on informing people what works for me.  The Turpentine actually, aside from the not feeling well from the die off, my rash is somewhat improved.  Could be temporary though... and i do have good days and bad.
wanda [November 14, 2013 - 8:31 pm]: The effing rash is painful.
wanda [November 14, 2013 - 8:32 pm]: Don't worry, i don't plan on droning on about what's wrong with me... just putting it out there... others can learn something.  I
ArmunnRigh [November 14, 2013 - 8:33 pm]: Well, I don't know if I'm going to reach old age or not, so
wanda [November 14, 2013 - 8:34 pm]: I know... not sure how much life i have left in me... feels like four years, maybe... if that.  Why won't people wake up?
ArmunnRigh [November 14, 2013 - 8:36 pm]: why would they? What's their motivation while asleep? Every one of us didn't notice something wrong by choice but by challenge
wanda [November 14, 2013 - 8:38 pm]: Not me... i was happily married.  We had a nice house, lots of money, we were i love... a 17 year honey moon.  I used to say a prayer of thankfulness nearly every day for the blessings of my life.  I lost it anyhow.  I woke up despite my happy life... and the wake up cost me that.
ArmunnRigh [November 14, 2013 - 8:39 pm]: No challenge at all? Well then my sincere respects - you're way braver
wanda [November 14, 2013 - 8:40 pm]: I was even given a choice... i would still be in that idyllic life if i would only go back to sleep.  True story.
wanda [November 14, 2013 - 8:41 pm]: True, and i guess, unique, story.
ArmunnRigh [November 14, 2013 - 8:41 pm]: respects then! :)
wanda [November 14, 2013 - 8:42 pm]: Thank you... i am where i am by choice.  Not an easy choice, but the only one i could make for myself.
ArmunnRigh [November 14, 2013 - 8:43 pm]: Well I had choices, but the catalyzer were challenges
wanda [November 14, 2013 - 8:45 pm]: I guess it does all come down to choice... hopefully.  Not sure what i mean by that, but if you didn't see this coming and didn't make conscious choices, i think it will be much worse for you.
ArmunnRigh [November 14, 2013 - 8:46 pm]: fear is just another barrier, nothing more.
wanda [November 14, 2013 - 8:47 pm]: I know i am consciously choosing to fight this... just as i know my X is consciously choosing to cooperate with it.  I know he is because, i have informed him he is... and he is.  He is seeing the chicken come home to roost now... everyone is.
wanda [November 14, 2013 - 8:48 pm]: Chickens.  I make my choices, many times at the click of a mouse, consciously.  There is fear, but the fear i have is it will be worse if i don't.
ArmunnRigh [November 14, 2013 - 8:48 pm]: yeah, it's a barrier
ArmunnRigh [November 14, 2013 - 8:48 pm]: solely that
wanda [November 14, 2013 - 8:49 pm]: Well, yeah... because which ever choice you make... to face it, or to avoid it.  Avoidance is the worse... it only prolongs things... because it will be faced.
wanda [November 14, 2013 - 8:50 pm]: But we do some things, us chicken hearts, because five years ago you could not tell anyone 9-11 was an inside job... now everyone knows.  No fun being a martyr though.
ArmunnRigh [November 14, 2013 - 8:51 pm]: chicken hearts?
wanda [November 14, 2013 - 8:51 pm]: Just an expression.
wanda [November 14, 2013 - 8:51 pm]: Probably the wrong one in reflection... Lion hearts.  I hear the word lie in there...
wanda [November 14, 2013 - 8:52 pm]: Perish/Parrish
wanda [November 14, 2013 - 8:53 pm]: Corps/Corpse
ArmunnRigh [November 14, 2013 - 8:53 pm]: yes
wanda [November 14, 2013 - 8:53 pm]: Spell Craft
wanda [November 14, 2013 - 8:54 pm]: NSA/NASA/NAZI
wanda [November 14, 2013 - 8:55 pm]: My concept is catching on... people are figuring out the word play.  I feel good about that.
Bootleg_Bill [November 14, 2013 - 8:55 pm]: history - his story
wanda [November 14, 2013 - 8:56 pm]: My sister is not a heavy thinker and we both looked at each other and said Perish when we saw the Parrish sign... it is that simple.
wanda [November 14, 2013 - 8:56 pm]: Yep... you got it Bill.
ArmunnRigh [November 14, 2013 - 8:56 pm]: EVOLution has LOVE backwards too
wanda [November 14, 2013 - 8:57 pm]: And Revolve has the word Evolve in it... and letter R stands for Regis... the head.  Look at the letter R, it looks like a head and shoulders in profile.
wanda [November 14, 2013 - 8:58 pm]: So... we don't want to revolve or revolt... we want to evolve and volt... not return it to the Regis.
wanda [November 14, 2013 - 8:59 pm]: Because that's what we keep doing and nothing changes, only gets worse.
ArmunnRigh [November 14, 2013 - 9:00 pm]: there has never been a revolution anyway, but people do believe so, therefore your idea is still correct
wanda [November 14, 2013 - 9:01 pm]: Right... it is the social meme that needs killing, like religion and polyticks.  I see that happening.
Bootleg_Bill [November 14, 2013 - 9:03 pm]: <a href="http://www.psywarrior.com/reserveunits.html" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">http://www.psywarrior.com/reserveunits.html</a>
wanda [November 14, 2013 - 9:03 pm]: On Vita Cost, where i was buying supplements, i view the ratings to see what other people have thought about a particular item... they had more than a few entries from "credentialled authoriteis"... those by and large were thumbs downed... in a big way.  Like saying "no, we don't believe you."
wanda [November 14, 2013 - 9:03 pm]: There is no reason to believe you.
ArmunnRigh [November 14, 2013 - 9:04 pm]: why??? what did I do??? :-(
wanda [November 14, 2013 - 9:05 pm]: Not you... i am referring to the experts... i see people not taking their word anymore.
ArmunnRigh [November 14, 2013 - 9:06 pm]: ;)
wanda [November 14, 2013 - 9:06 pm]: Like... we all know the "experts" lie... the little boy cried wolf too many times.... :D
ArmunnRigh [November 14, 2013 - 9:06 pm]: That seems to be part of the plan, though
wanda [November 14, 2013 - 9:07 pm]: I can't say it's a bad plan... although, it does make you wonder if a paradigm isn't being introduced.  Not sure if that's a good or bad thing... i don't know what to make of it yet.
wanda [November 14, 2013 - 9:07 pm]: Chaos theory.
ArmunnRigh [November 14, 2013 - 9:07 pm]: destroy the smaller to create the bigger
wanda [November 14, 2013 - 9:08 pm]: Conversely, destroy the big to save the smaller.  Seems like the power elite are being set up  to fall.
ArmunnRigh [November 14, 2013 - 9:09 pm]: nah, they planned it themselves
wanda [November 14, 2013 - 9:10 pm]: Which ones?  The ones doing the nasties or the ones above them... and do the nasties think the ones over them have got their back?
ArmunnRigh [November 14, 2013 - 9:10 pm]: the doers are just executives
wanda [November 14, 2013 - 9:10 pm]: Because we don't know what we don't know.
wanda [November 14, 2013 - 9:11 pm]: Are they?
ArmunnRigh [November 14, 2013 - 9:11 pm]: some will take the fall, of course, but they don't mind sacrifices
wanda [November 14, 2013 - 9:11 pm]: That is evident.
wanda [November 14, 2013 - 9:14 pm]: Watching Caesar's Messiah, i can see the paradigms are changing. It may be possible to throw off the chains of religion and politics.  We would be looking at a far better world if we do... it is possible.
ArmunnRigh [November 14, 2013 - 9:14 pm]: I said before, whether I was right or not, the stories are essential - they will be the key to whichever end.
wanda [November 14, 2013 - 9:16 pm]: I know, you said it.  Verses/Versus... you may be right... but the stories can make a better world by being honest and instructive instead of what we currently see.
ArmunnRigh [November 14, 2013 - 9:17 pm]: what lies beyond when we discover all the truth is not? A story, yes
wanda [November 14, 2013 - 9:18 pm]: We will never discover all the truth... we can't.
ArmunnRigh [November 14, 2013 - 9:18 pm]: I said all that truth is not
Bootleg_Bill [November 14, 2013 - 9:20 pm]: <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3pfS5wjc2LA" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3pfS5wjc2LA</a>
ArmunnRigh [November 14, 2013 - 9:20 pm]: Ah one of my favorites! Thumbs up, Bill!
Bootleg_Bill [November 14, 2013 - 9:22 pm]: ;)
Bootleg_Bill [November 14, 2013 - 9:23 pm]: <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u6tVLvBsBWw" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u6tVLvBsBWw</a>    &gt;if you want to smile
wanda [November 14, 2013 - 9:24 pm]: Odd thing Bill... the Tell-a-vision is telling some truths lately... my sister tells me... she's learning things i told her about six years ago.  Ain't technology grand?
Bootleg_Bill [November 14, 2013 - 9:25 pm]: the is truth in every lie
Bootleg_Bill [November 14, 2013 - 9:25 pm]: there
wanda [November 14, 2013 - 9:25 pm]: Of course, it's slanted... it's programming.  So, my sister relates the stories to me, and i tell her what they're trying to program into her with their truth.
Bootleg_Bill [November 14, 2013 - 9:26 pm]: program - programming.  crazy wordplay these folks from holly-wood be using
Bootleg_Bill [November 14, 2013 - 9:27 pm]: tv program is programming yo ass
Bootleg_Bill [November 14, 2013 - 9:27 pm]: it really does suck.
ArmunnRigh [November 14, 2013 - 9:27 pm]: António Aleixo, a portuguese poet, once wrote: "P'ra mentira ser segura
e atingir profundidade
tem de trazer à mistura
qualquer coisa de verdade."
ArmunnRigh [November 14, 2013 - 9:28 pm]: It means "For the lie to be secure and reach deeply it must bring mixed in it something true"
Bootleg_Bill [November 14, 2013 - 9:28 pm]: that should be on a shirt
Bootleg_Bill [November 14, 2013 - 9:28 pm]: nice Righ
Bootleg_Bill [November 14, 2013 - 9:28 pm]: in all langages
ArmunnRigh [November 14, 2013 - 9:29 pm]: indeed
Bootleg_Bill [November 14, 2013 - 9:30 pm]: been thinking about coming out with a shirt line.  so if you see someone wearing them.  you can say Hi
Bootleg_Bill [November 14, 2013 - 9:30 pm]: might be more out there than we think?
ArmunnRigh [November 14, 2013 - 9:30 pm]: nice thinking there
ArmunnRigh [November 14, 2013 - 9:31 pm]: The guy is funny Bill :)
Bootleg_Bill [November 14, 2013 - 9:31 pm]: hehe.  his comedy is "one liners"
Bootleg_Bill [November 14, 2013 - 9:33 pm]: <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F-JFPePh6yM" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F-JFPePh6yM</a>   -  Louie C.K
Bootleg_Bill [November 14, 2013 - 9:35 pm]: try to smile threw the bullshit.    life without happiness...is what they want.  I REFUSE to be what "they" want.
ArmunnRigh [November 14, 2013 - 9:36 pm]: I agree, indeed - heck I'm the one throwing jokes around the chat all the time :D
Bootleg_Bill [November 14, 2013 - 9:40 pm]: o yeah.  very much appreciated.  it is tough.  life is tough, it is real and it is painful.  but threw it all....it is amazing, wonderful and full of an unexpected future that will only be known when we get there.  it is up to us to best as we can, to make it the best ride possible.
ArmunnRigh [November 14, 2013 - 9:40 pm]: «when I think of something funny, I reach for a pen and write it down. Or, if the pen is too far away, I have to convince myself that what I though isn't funny» :D :D :D
ArmunnRigh [November 14, 2013 - 9:41 pm]: as I said before, "heaven" is right here
Bootleg_Bill [November 14, 2013 - 9:41 pm]: have thought that for the longest time.  you can either live in heaven or hell on earth.
Bootleg_Bill [November 14, 2013 - 9:42 pm]: until I see some sort of proof of that being case when we pass...then I will stick with the present.
ArmunnRigh [November 14, 2013 - 9:43 pm]: that's my point - are we aware of what happens after death? No. Then why bother? Make it right here.
wanda [November 14, 2013 - 9:44 pm]: That guy's a rip.  thanks Bill.
Bootleg_Bill [November 14, 2013 - 9:45 pm]: @wanda:  thanks.  check out the link to louie ck. when you get a chance.   he has no filter.
wanda [November 14, 2013 - 9:46 pm]: i am watching now...
ArmunnRigh [November 14, 2013 - 9:46 pm]: personally, I don't like Louis CK, but thanks anyway for the intent, Bill
Bootleg_Bill [November 14, 2013 - 9:46 pm]: all good.
Bootleg_Bill [November 14, 2013 - 9:48 pm]: @ArmunnRigh   yep.  it amazes me how many folks suffer living in the hopes of "utopia" when they die.   live your life now...because for all we know...it's all we get.
ArmunnRigh [November 14, 2013 - 9:49 pm]: @Bootleg_Bill: right. while they're waiting for the afterlife, you're screwing yourself and everyone around them right here - just make it happen here
ArmunnRigh [November 14, 2013 - 9:50 pm]: *they're
Bootleg_Bill [November 14, 2013 - 9:52 pm]: yes.  thank you for the correction.   the outside these thought processes "you're".   not meant for us who are open.
Bootleg_Bill [November 14, 2013 - 9:52 pm]: or you of course  :D
ArmunnRigh [November 14, 2013 - 9:52 pm]: ;)
Bootleg_Bill [November 14, 2013 - 9:53 pm]: how bout some Bill Hicks.   <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fDTaO3QCJ8A" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fDTaO3QCJ8A</a>
ArmunnRigh [November 14, 2013 - 9:54 pm]: Bill is my favorite, right up there with Carlin
Bootleg_Bill [November 14, 2013 - 9:56 pm]: nice.
Bootleg_Bill [November 14, 2013 - 10:00 pm]: got to see carlin once.  he was prepping for a headliner and at the end of his normal routine...he started reading from his notes to see what new jokes the crowd liked for the bigger show.  cool watching his process.
ArmunnRigh [November 14, 2013 - 10:01 pm]: really? interesting
Bootleg_Bill [November 14, 2013 - 10:03 pm]: yeah.  here is were it was.  have seen handful of good comics there.  <a href="http://louisvillepalace.com/photos-videos" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">http://louisvillepalace.com/photos-videos</a>
ArmunnRigh [November 14, 2013 - 10:05 pm]: no video of that though, I bet :(
Bootleg_Bill [November 14, 2013 - 10:05 pm]: doubt it.
Bootleg_Bill [November 14, 2013 - 10:06 pm]: it is too small of a place.  folks come there to warm up.  it is bigger than a club.  but not like a "made for tv"
ArmunnRigh [November 14, 2013 - 10:07 pm]: good old fashion place, it seems
Bootleg_Bill [November 14, 2013 - 10:08 pm]: well...somebody got a clip.  hahah.  not sure if this is the same night I went?   <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fc6iJkkXLPk" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fc6iJkkXLPk</a>
Bootleg_Bill [November 14, 2013 - 10:08 pm]: it is.
Bootleg_Bill [November 14, 2013 - 10:08 pm]: he has the notes in his hands
ArmunnRigh [November 14, 2013 - 10:11 pm]: what are the odds heh? he got even better as he got older
Bootleg_Bill [November 14, 2013 - 10:13 pm]: yeah.  his last bit was his best imho.
ArmunnRigh [November 14, 2013 - 10:13 pm]: growing and always pertinent material
Bootleg_Bill [November 14, 2013 - 10:13 pm]: .
Bootleg_Bill [November 14, 2013 - 10:14 pm]: may we all be at our best at our end.
ArmunnRigh [November 14, 2013 - 10:15 pm]: may we all be at our best well before we end! :D
Bootleg_Bill [November 14, 2013 - 10:16 pm]: well said indeed.  ^^^^
ArmunnRigh [November 14, 2013 - 10:17 pm]: watching this now <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s-clvDxl8qI" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s-clvDxl8qI</a> - you got my apetite going
Bootleg_Bill [November 14, 2013 - 10:18 pm]: nice.  i will check it out.
Dustyash [November 14, 2013 - 10:33 pm]: How dee folks the Jim Fetzer challenge mash up entertainment walk off show on the Brian Staveley show,,,,,,,,
Dustyash [November 14, 2013 - 10:34 pm]: 11-13-13
Dose Of
Reality  Part 2 <a href="http://www.therealnewsonline.com/radio-archive.html" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">http://www.therealnewsonline.com/radio-archive.html</a>
Dustyash [November 14, 2013 - 10:34 pm]: Enjoy cheers it is pretty good
ArmunnRigh [November 14, 2013 - 10:34 pm]: Yo Dusty tha man
ArmunnRigh [November 14, 2013 - 10:35 pm]: thanks! :D
Bootleg_Bill [November 14, 2013 - 10:52 pm]: right on Dusty.  was listening before i logged on.  spetz sure was evasive.  but since i never listen?  maybe he's that way?  but doubt it.
ArmunnRigh [November 14, 2013 - 10:57 pm]: he was not in control there, not on his playing field. He still tried to use his expert tactics, but then Mike from LA struck the final blow that made the mask fall, for any who still had doubts
Bootleg_Bill [November 14, 2013 - 10:59 pm]: <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&#038;v=QgACcUDttQ0" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&#038;v=QgACcUDttQ0</a>    - reminded me of this.  hehe
ArmunnRigh [November 14, 2013 - 11:02 pm]: LOL :D
ArmunnRigh [November 14, 2013 - 11:03 pm]: Women... <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qJ32fVB4vE0" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qJ32fVB4vE0</a>
Bootleg_Bill [November 14, 2013 - 11:05 pm]: classic  ^^^
Bootleg_Bill [November 14, 2013 - 11:07 pm]: haha.  never seen that one.  "you were captured by something that goes on a salad"
ArmunnRigh [November 14, 2013 - 11:08 pm]: :D
ArmunnRigh [November 14, 2013 - 11:08 pm]: ungrateful bitch! :D
Bootleg_Bill [November 14, 2013 - 11:08 pm]: hahah
columjaddica [November 14, 2013 - 11:56 pm]: Listening to the main stream, the part about medical students being asked to correct or respond to poor information on forums made me think.
columjaddica [November 14, 2013 - 11:59 pm]: Reddit has subreddits (individual forums) with names such as "Ask Science", with others dedicated to all fields. These subreddits enforce rules that basically mean that you can't talk far outside of the consensus.
columjaddica [November 15, 2013 - 12:01 am]: Those subreddits are moderated and frequented by people with degrees in the fields, often ones working in academia. I also see a lot of "I'm a nurse (or whatever) and I just have to say something". Reddit is interesting because it used to have some degree of opposition in all subreddits but after the 2008 election it lost any taste of that. It just seems to promote herd behavior now.
columjaddica [November 15, 2013 - 12:14 am]: and on the NDAA, I *think* they pass them every year and it is signed into law roughly  around the 1st. So that last one passed was the NDAA 2013 which was a bill in 2012 and signed on the first or the fourth of this year. It included 200 amendments including one which allows the United States military to directly target American citizens with propaganda. The Senate passed the 2013 NDAA on Decembe
columjaddica [November 15, 2013 - 12:14 am]: Sorry, December 14th 2012
columjaddica [November 15, 2013 - 12:15 am]: I think it was significant because I noticed a change in the tone and content of news from before and after. Although they've done psyops for a long time, something's different now.
columjaddica [November 15, 2013 - 12:16 am]: This also raises the question, is it "treason" to oppose the official story? If the military can use propaganda here "legally" then that might tie in with various other war powers acts.
Banazir Galbasi [November 15, 2013 - 12:19 am]: Props to Dusty and Mike for taking "Doctor" Fetzer down a few pegs on Dose of Reality! Cheers! :D
Bootleg_Bill [November 15, 2013 - 12:24 am]: "Painful as the task is to describe the dark side of our affairs, it sometimes becomes a matter of indispensable necessity." - Letter to the Secretary of War, October 2, 1782 from George Wash ing ton
Banazir Galbasi [November 15, 2013 - 12:33 am]: <a href="http://fakeologist.com/2013/06/28/577/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">http://fakeologist.com/2013/06/28/577/</a> We should start a bring back Rollo petition. Where did he go? Anyone else miss him?:P
Bootleg_Bill [November 15, 2013 - 12:33 am]: herehere.
Bootleg_Bill [November 15, 2013 - 12:59 am]: someone else click 5 stars for Abs chat so it gets off 11.  and then no one click it so it doesn't hit 13.  Or if they do...someone hit it up fast so it goes to 14.  yeah.  14.   14 sounds safe.    hahah
JohnnyClues [November 15, 2013 - 1:03 am]: yea I liked rollo on the call
Carole Thomas [November 15, 2013 - 1:50 am]: Yes, I miss Rollo too.
aralsea [November 15, 2013 - 2:16 am]: If Rollo is still listening then he will come back. I hope. I like him. He is good at keeping the talk flowing and entertaining.
ArmunnRigh [November 15, 2013 - 3:04 am]: @wanda: Hey wanda are you there?
ab [November 15, 2013 - 5:00 am]: @aralsea et al:Rollo is on vacation. Not sure when he's due back.
Tom-Dalpra [November 15, 2013 - 5:35 am]: ah good, he'll be back. Feel the love Rollo.
Tom-Dalpra [November 15, 2013 - 5:37 am]: in your direct-hit-on-a-pizza-factory shirt.
Rollo [November 15, 2013 - 5:37 am]: It's not about me, It about keeping it real..........
Tom-Dalpra [November 15, 2013 - 5:38 am]: haha
Tom-Dalpra [November 15, 2013 - 5:38 am]: and there he really is -
Rollo [November 15, 2013 - 5:38 am]: Glad to be back
Tom-Dalpra [November 15, 2013 - 5:38 am]: or is he!
Tom-Dalpra [November 15, 2013 - 5:38 am]: you're fake aren't you darling?
Rollo [November 15, 2013 - 5:38 am]: Nice to see you Tom...you're Lovely
Rollo [November 15, 2013 - 5:39 am]: Im as real as it gets
Tom-Dalpra [November 15, 2013 - 5:39 am]: i'm real from berkshire england
Tom-Dalpra [November 15, 2013 - 5:40 am]: parents were both from windsor
Rollo [November 15, 2013 - 5:40 am]: cambridge?
Tom-Dalpra [November 15, 2013 - 5:40 am]: now I'm in Cambridgeshire. lived most of my life there. 25 years in Cambridge itself
Tom-Dalpra [November 15, 2013 - 5:41 am]: yes
Tom-Dalpra [November 15, 2013 - 5:41 am]: you were born in england?
Rollo [November 15, 2013 - 5:42 am]: your accent reminds me of Johno Ross mate , Rusty Brand.....eggged onto saying stupid things to Manuel
Tom-Dalpra [November 15, 2013 - 5:43 am]: well we've hardly met but I felt so strangely comfortable with Ab and yourself having enjoyed listening to your guys voices so much
Tom-Dalpra [November 15, 2013 - 5:43 am]: I'm my own man. Brand is a dupe
Rollo [November 15, 2013 - 5:44 am]: your computer had dodgy audio  to start with on that call but magically fixed itself darling.....
Tom-Dalpra [November 15, 2013 - 5:45 am]: Brand is selling drones and 'we're killingthe planet' and Snowden. Mainstream alternative hollywood, where's my stylist horse crap
Tom-Dalpra [November 15, 2013 - 5:45 am]: marvelous haha
Rollo [November 15, 2013 - 5:46 am]: Russell makes me laugh....Alex jones doesnt
Tom-Dalpra [November 15, 2013 - 5:47 am]: I'm a long time fan of Russell Brand. And Bill Hicks - he still believed in dinosaurs...
Rollo [November 15, 2013 - 5:48 am]: were A11 Dinosaurs here darling........
Rollo [November 15, 2013 - 5:48 am]: How do we use Facebook and Twatter
Rollo [November 15, 2013 - 5:48 am]: ?
Tom-Dalpra [November 15, 2013 - 5:49 am]: haha fuckin speak for yourself lizard skin in Oz there getting your pomegranite complexion nuked with death rays from the government controlled universe
Rollo [November 15, 2013 - 5:49 am]: heh
Tom-Dalpra [November 15, 2013 - 5:49 am]: social networking platforms.
Rollo [November 15, 2013 - 5:50 am]: gonna call in on the 22nd / 23rd.....JFK 50th
Rollo [November 15, 2013 - 5:51 am]: only if those lixard people a11ow us to?
Tom-Dalpra [November 15, 2013 - 5:51 am]: it's early hours here but I'll try and at least say hello. Jfk is that the origin of the popularisation of the term 'conspiracy theory'?
Rollo [November 15, 2013 - 5:52 am]: I was made for loving you baby.....did you enjoy that tune?
Tom-Dalpra [November 15, 2013 - 5:52 am]: yeh beautiful. sing it again.
Tom-Dalpra [November 15, 2013 - 5:52 am]: i've got a semi
Tom-Dalpra [November 15, 2013 - 5:53 am]: stop it
Rollo [November 15, 2013 - 5:53 am]: JFK = CONS THEORY  &lt;----thats where it began it ends next week if they let me on the mic
Rollo [November 15, 2013 - 5:54 am]: a semi....nice...:)
Rollo [November 15, 2013 - 5:54 am]: dont touch it....youll go to Hello
Tom-Dalpra [November 15, 2013 - 5:55 am]: semi detached house. yeh, all that language...the 999 in the brit emergency code. such simple in our faces old references.
Rollo [November 15, 2013 - 5:55 am]: Comedy makes me happy....Making people Laugh is King
Tom-Dalpra [November 15, 2013 - 5:56 am]: I make you sane
Rollo [November 15, 2013 - 5:56 am]: afffable is a lovely word
Rollo [November 15, 2013 - 5:56 am]: along with naicient
Tom-Dalpra [November 15, 2013 - 5:57 am]: afable is a terrible thing
Rollo [November 15, 2013 - 5:57 am]: only if you believe it
Tom-Dalpra [November 15, 2013 - 5:58 am]: yes, the nascent
Tom-Dalpra [November 15, 2013 - 5:58 am]: fakeologist radio show it's blossomed
Rollo [November 15, 2013 - 5:59 am]: skype me
Tom-Dalpra [November 15, 2013 - 5:59 am]: Simon and Lux have posted her.
Tom-Dalpra [November 15, 2013 - 5:59 am]: e
Tom-Dalpra [November 15, 2013 - 5:59 am]: :-)
Rollo [November 15, 2013 - 6:01 am]: sure know something ro11o11
Tom-Dalpra [November 15, 2013 - 6:03 am]: what's your skype ?
Rollo [November 15, 2013 - 6:04 am]: take 2....ahem.....ro11o11:-)
Tom-Dalpra [November 15, 2013 - 6:04 am]: ahem
Rollo [November 15, 2013 - 6:05 am]: amen
Rollo [November 15, 2013 - 6:05 am]: waiting?
Tom-Dalpra [November 15, 2013 - 6:07 am]: nor       wwww
Rollo [November 15, 2013 - 6:08 am]: dont panic....call now mate...as Jan would say
Tom-Dalpra [November 15, 2013 - 6:09 am]: I'm messaging someone in Norway?
Tom-Dalpra [November 15, 2013 - 6:09 am]: haha
Tom-Dalpra [November 15, 2013 - 6:09 am]: they think I'm a idiot
Rollo [November 15, 2013 - 6:10 am]: you're not ...im the idiot
Rollo [November 15, 2013 - 6:11 am]: cmon dont fuck about call me on skype Tom....Id much rather talk than type
Tom-Dalpra [November 15, 2013 - 6:11 am]: well...I had nnoticed a ttyping definciency before but I let it go as adhd, aids, or me
Rollo [November 15, 2013 - 6:11 am]: ro11o11
Tom-Dalpra [November 15, 2013 - 6:12 am]: ok
Tom-Dalpra [November 15, 2013 - 8:39 am]: there's still some guy under the name ro11ro11 in Norway hanging on an open call. Good to talk to you mate.
Tom-Dalpra [November 15, 2013 - 8:41 am]: BRAINS AND BALLS AND A BAEEEL OF BOOZE
Tom-Dalpra [November 15, 2013 - 8:42 am]: that's the thing with these chat threads. You can't edit can you? Concentrate! Barrel - and without the caps
Tom-Dalpra [November 15, 2013 - 8:50 am]: i think alcohol is partly a drug of fear. It's the natural counterpoint of its' not-give-a-shit benefits...not give a shit and fear. There we have a false model once more; perhaps a shaky foundation on which to build. It's just body chemistry but it ended up leaving me with the creeping fear...I don't have that anymore. I can see why it's a legal one here in the UK. It either makes you not re
Tom-Dalpra [November 15, 2013 - 8:53 am]: ally care, or be fearful...
Banazir Galbasi [November 15, 2013 - 12:27 pm]: Nice to have you back Rollo. #easiestpetitionever ;)
Gabriel [November 15, 2013 - 1:15 pm]: Tim, looks like your mayor's saga continues and nice spot on Drudge's site, <a href="http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Peace/2013/11/15/Toronto-councilors-look-to-strip-mayor-of-powers" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Peace/2013/11/15/Toronto-councilors-look-to-strip-mayor-of-powers</a>.
JohnnyClues [November 15, 2013 - 2:27 pm]: @Gabriel: watched the vid above...Ford "sporting" a football tie...quite a football themed interview sessions lately..he also wore a cfl jersey @ another camera-op
ArmunnRigh [November 15, 2013 - 4:06 pm]: @JohnnyClues: yes, there seems to be a stage manager somewhere for this public novel episode
ab [November 15, 2013 - 5:21 pm]: @Gabriel: Yes it's quite bizarre
wanda [November 15, 2013 - 5:23 pm]: Is there a show here on Friday nights?
ab [November 15, 2013 - 5:38 pm]: @wanda: Sometimes if I get home at a decent time...may do a raw tomorow nite
Banazir Galbasi [November 15, 2013 - 8:14 pm]: So no Raw tonight? Cooking With Simon tomorrow I see...
Dustyash [November 15, 2013 - 9:00 pm]: looking forward to listening to Simon tomorrow night should be good
wanda [November 15, 2013 - 9:23 pm]: Ab... thanks.   That explains why on only receive random notices... they are not regular.  Hay, did you intent to spell Porn wrong in the title of 45 Terabytes?
ArmunnRigh [November 15, 2013 - 9:34 pm]: Tomorrow is a raw call, ab? With Simon?
ArmunnRigh [November 15, 2013 - 9:48 pm]: @wanda: maybe he meant child prawn? :D
ArmunnRigh [November 15, 2013 - 10:37 pm]: @Dustyash: Simon will be at 15:11 EST, not in the evening
Dustyash [November 15, 2013 - 10:38 pm]: hope to have a chat tom night would be nice always educational and enlightening and entertaining love to have a go with Jim Fetzer again
ArmunnRigh [November 15, 2013 - 10:38 pm]: ahahah
ArmunnRigh [November 15, 2013 - 10:39 pm]: maybe two calls in one day will be too much for Tim? :P
Dustyash [November 15, 2013 - 10:39 pm]: yeah we will see it would be good if he has raw given the amount of stuff that has taken place in the last week
ArmunnRigh [November 15, 2013 - 10:40 pm]: true
Dustyash [November 15, 2013 - 10:42 pm]: Jim Fetzer and Ace Baker are two characters that really have to step down so the rest of us can forge ahead and seek real truth
ArmunnRigh [November 15, 2013 - 10:43 pm]: well Ace never even got to step up in the first place, really
Dustyash [November 15, 2013 - 10:45 pm]: Jim Fetzer is poisoning the well! We need to be careful of these guys talking on these web site that are preserved and sensitive to a community that wants to be pure we may have to bewary of these kinds of people I think
Dustyash [November 15, 2013 - 10:46 pm]: web sites
ArmunnRigh [November 15, 2013 - 10:46 pm]: indeed - there are even people making careers out of it
Banazir Galbasi [November 15, 2013 - 10:46 pm]: Memories... <a href="http://fakeologist.com/2013/05/03/shack-smack-of-fatzer/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">http://fakeologist.com/2013/05/03/shack-smack-of-fatzer/</a>
Dustyash [November 15, 2013 - 10:47 pm]: yes and he is for sure he is a control opposition no question about it
Dustyash [November 15, 2013 - 10:47 pm]: Jim Fetzer go back to where you came from
Dustyash [November 15, 2013 - 10:48 pm]: blah blah blah no where talk
ArmunnRigh [November 15, 2013 - 10:49 pm]: ahaha banazir
ArmunnRigh [November 15, 2013 - 10:49 pm]: and the video about revisionism and free speech on the first comment may be interesting too
Dustyash [November 15, 2013 - 10:52 pm]: Ace Baker should go to a place where they like phoney people he would be right at home he to needs to go away
ArmunnRigh [November 15, 2013 - 10:53 pm]: you know, I think I know how these recruitments work
Dustyash [November 15, 2013 - 10:53 pm]: he  made a complete mockery of the whole event
ArmunnRigh [November 15, 2013 - 10:55 pm]: it's like someone is discovered by one of the main handlers (like Fetzer or Wood) and then they are encouraged to present their things. After, they are guided towards certain conclusions and to make them public, thus compromising their public image, linking it with the info. After that, they are told the truth and are already too far in to turn back and can only go forward and proceed.
Banazir Galbasi [November 15, 2013 - 10:56 pm]: On the recent Ace appearance: <a href="http://fauxcapitalist.com/2013/11/10/why-is-john-friend-giving-a-platform-to-ace-baker-who-discredited-himself-by-faking-his-own-suicide-on-air/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">http://fauxcapitalist.com/2013/11/10/why-is-john-friend-giving-a-platform-to-ace-baker-who-discredited-himself-by-faking-his-own-suicide-on-air/</a>
ArmunnRigh [November 15, 2013 - 10:56 pm]: that's how politicians are recruited in Portugal. There's not a single politician after 1974 that has not come out of the ranks of the party youths
Dustyash [November 15, 2013 - 10:57 pm]: Agents that steer us away or do their best to try we really have to be careful of these people the plan could lie deeper much deeper the then we came possibly imagine beware
ArmunnRigh [November 15, 2013 - 10:57 pm]: yeah
Dustyash [November 15, 2013 - 10:57 pm]: can possibly imagine
Banazir Galbasi [November 15, 2013 - 10:58 pm]: Didn't Ace play bass for Rush? <a href="http://www.nndb.com/people/547/000025472/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">http://www.nndb.com/people/547/000025472/</a>
Dustyash [November 15, 2013 - 10:58 pm]: hahaha
Dustyash [November 15, 2013 - 10:58 pm]: lol
Dustyash [November 15, 2013 - 10:58 pm]: he does look like Geddy Lee yes or his brother for sure
ArmunnRigh [November 15, 2013 - 10:59 pm]: lol
Dustyash [November 15, 2013 - 10:59 pm]: great picture looks like ACE now you ruined Rush for me thanks Banazir lol
Dustyash [November 15, 2013 - 11:00 pm]: Why is John Friend giving a platform to Ace Baker, who discredited himself by faking his own suicide on air I copied and pasted this thought
Dustyash [November 15, 2013 - 11:01 pm]: like the post banazir cheers that is good read there
ArmunnRigh [November 15, 2013 - 11:04 pm]: well, dusty, my thoughts on Friend have been put forward, but I'd rather have you guys reach your own conclusions
Dustyash [November 15, 2013 - 11:05 pm]: A charade of characters that simply
Dustyash [November 15, 2013 - 11:05 pm]: are ridiculous
Dustyash [November 15, 2013 - 11:06 pm]: they spoil the well they are put there on purpose
Dustyash [November 15, 2013 - 11:06 pm]: we want to be serious about this and they just run a muck
ArmunnRigh [November 15, 2013 - 11:09 pm]: you know, Dusty, my proposition is, always ask the question "what's this guy's agenda?" when you hear, read or watch someone's presentation. "Where does he want to lead me?"
ArmunnRigh [November 15, 2013 - 11:09 pm]: that should be enough for a preliminary screening
Dustyash [November 15, 2013 - 11:14 pm]: After talking to Jim Fetzer and listening to him I am sorry but this needs to be explained
ArmunnRigh [November 15, 2013 - 11:14 pm]: it sort of explains itself, doesn't it, mate?
Dustyash [November 15, 2013 - 11:16 pm]: I see I know what you mean yeah
Dustyash [November 15, 2013 - 11:17 pm]: we just can not give to much attention to these people I guess
ArmunnRigh [November 15, 2013 - 11:17 pm]: well we can use them asexamples to study patterns for the future, but not further than that
ArmunnRigh [November 15, 2013 - 11:17 pm]: I would say
Dustyash [November 15, 2013 - 11:18 pm]: yes I  agree it keeps our B.S. meters calibrated
Dustyash [November 15, 2013 - 11:23 pm]: I downloaded  dose of reality part 2 of the Brian Staveley show and filed it away in my hall of fame of fakery
ArmunnRigh [November 15, 2013 - 11:23 pm]: what's in your top 3 then? :D
Dustyash [November 15, 2013 - 11:24 pm]: That's easy JFK 911 NASA
ArmunnRigh [November 15, 2013 - 11:24 pm]: oh I thought it was a hall of fame for shills
Dustyash [November 15, 2013 - 11:26 pm]: Jim Fetzer is a shill and a fake I suppose you could say fake and shills hall of fame
ArmunnRigh [November 15, 2013 - 11:29 pm]: nice record then
Dustyash [November 15, 2013 - 11:31 pm]: it is so long to even imagine to be honest with you. hard to keep up it is daily thing I suppose
ArmunnRigh [November 15, 2013 - 11:32 pm]: truth is discovered not by what it is, but by what it isn't - process of elimination
Dustyash [November 15, 2013 - 11:33 pm]: yes
Dustyash [November 15, 2013 - 11:35 pm]: we are being controlled in ways in a magnitude we can not even possibly imagine I am certain of for sure very very high level craft of skills very scary
ArmunnRigh [November 15, 2013 - 11:37 pm]: shouldn't scare - fear is also a mechanism of theirs
Dustyash [November 15, 2013 - 11:38 pm]: <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k_JnCWT-_O8" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k_JnCWT-_O8</a>
Dustyash [November 15, 2013 - 11:39 pm]: not the kind of fear I was talking about it is about what are they capable of
ArmunnRigh [November 15, 2013 - 11:39 pm]: yeah, but they exaggerate their abilities too you know?
Dustyash [November 15, 2013 - 11:40 pm]: Right we will see
Dustyash [November 15, 2013 - 11:41 pm]: The Great Beyond REM
Dustyash [November 15, 2013 - 11:43 pm]: We just don't know what is up there sleeve
Dustyash [November 15, 2013 - 11:43 pm]: what is next?
Dustyash [November 15, 2013 - 11:43 pm]: we will have to see
ArmunnRigh [November 15, 2013 - 11:45 pm]: one thing is for sure, their deceit is becoming more visible every day
Dustyash [November 15, 2013 - 11:47 pm]: I hope that is going to be enough it is certainly a start
Videre Licet [November 16, 2013 - 12:28 am]: @ArmunnRigh: Do you think that is by design?
ArmunnRigh [November 16, 2013 - 12:30 am]: @Videre Licet: I'm divided, you know? I used to be certain these were just incompetent mistakes, but lately I really am wondering if there's another russian doll inside this one
ArmunnRigh [November 16, 2013 - 12:35 am]: @Videre Licet: What are your thoughts?
Videre Licet [November 16, 2013 - 12:36 am]: I believe everything is very controlled.   It is as though there is this push for people to "awaken"
ArmunnRigh [November 16, 2013 - 12:37 am]: @Videre Licet: Hmmm... interesting. Do you have any opinion as to why?
Videre Licet [November 16, 2013 - 12:37 am]: I was doing research on videos and hypnosis
Videre Licet [November 16, 2013 - 12:43 am]: if you look  at DGB's website you will see he uses many of the techniques
Videre Licet [November 16, 2013 - 12:44 am]: I find it interesting that alot of us have come off of researching those sites and found our way here.
Videre Licet [November 16, 2013 - 12:45 am]: who's to say we aren't being manipulated to see things that may not be true.
Dustyash [November 16, 2013 - 12:47 am]: good point on finding are way here good one I like that
ArmunnRigh [November 16, 2013 - 12:47 am]: what's DGB?
Videre Licet [November 16, 2013 - 12:48 am]: do u ever notice that markus allen sounds exactly like DGB (dallasgoldbug/wellaware1.com)?
ArmunnRigh [November 16, 2013 - 12:48 am]: ah chierini
Videre Licet [November 16, 2013 - 12:49 am]: chiarini (latin for illuminated face)
ArmunnRigh [November 16, 2013 - 12:49 am]: yeah, I never paid attention to Markus, but I did go through the crisis actors part of chiarini yes
ArmunnRigh [November 16, 2013 - 12:50 am]: that's a very interesting take, videre, so what may we be being led to see that isn't there?
Videre Licet [November 16, 2013 - 12:50 am]: the heart beat on the screen is a technique in hypnotizing the watcher
Videre Licet [November 16, 2013 - 12:51 am]: I almost wonder if this isn't the push for a fake reawakening
ArmunnRigh [November 16, 2013 - 12:51 am]: yes, you might be right there. It is becoming blatant for sure.
Videre Licet [November 16, 2013 - 12:52 am]: where maybe a few generations from now people will supposedly turn away from their govt and it will give them a sense of rebirth.
ArmunnRigh [November 16, 2013 - 12:52 am]: Still, how would a real awakening be like? Would we know? I'm just wondering alongside you, videre - important to consider that
Videre Licet [November 16, 2013 - 12:52 am]: they'll just recan their control and we'll feel some sort of growth and move in a different direction
Videre Licet [November 16, 2013 - 12:53 am]: perception is everything... they'll sell us something
ArmunnRigh [November 16, 2013 - 12:53 am]: yeah
ArmunnRigh [November 16, 2013 - 12:53 am]: I once thought that the Venus Project would be the next sell - you think that may be close?
Videre Licet [November 16, 2013 - 12:55 am]: wasn't the mayan (sp?) calendar supposed to be the end of the world ... and then they sold it as a rebirth... an awakening.  I swear that was the day my world turned inside out and I realized that all the vicsims were fake people.  12-21-12
Videre Licet [November 16, 2013 - 12:57 am]: the picture became clear that the perimeter of all those famous world events was sealed off from any real life witnesses and the box would sell us the story.
ArmunnRigh [November 16, 2013 - 12:57 am]: indeed
ArmunnRigh [November 16, 2013 - 12:58 am]: Now that you have brought this up - I'm wondering again about the Venus Project sell... remember that It has already been introduced into the collective mind and they may come out with it in the future
ArmunnRigh [November 16, 2013 - 12:58 am]: it does fit the paradigm, for sure - a society run by machines and technocrats
Videre Licet [November 16, 2013 - 12:59 am]: i am not familiar with it
ArmunnRigh [November 16, 2013 - 12:59 am]: <a href="http://www.thevenusproject.com/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">http://www.thevenusproject.com/</a> - it was sold alongside the Zeitgeist films
Videre Licet [November 16, 2013 - 1:01 am]: checking
Videre Licet [November 16, 2013 - 1:02 am]: It is pretty bad when  you recognize crisis workers in commercials and these manipulated sites.
Videre Licet [November 16, 2013 - 1:02 am]: i meant news events (not commercials)
ArmunnRigh [November 16, 2013 - 1:02 am]: I got it
ArmunnRigh [November 16, 2013 - 1:06 am]: you see that the venus project is the ultimate communism society? everything aimed for the greater good at the expense of individual "profits"
Videre Licet [November 16, 2013 - 1:08 am]: liked this:  The problem with our current system, as with any other, is not one of money. The people “behind the curtain” as they are often called do not need more money — they already have control over the printing press — what motivates them is power. A resource based system does not eliminate that desire, if anything it enhances the power elite by making it difficult for ordinary people
ArmunnRigh [November 16, 2013 - 1:09 am]: exactly
ArmunnRigh [November 16, 2013 - 1:09 am]: it's their wet dream
ArmunnRigh [November 16, 2013 - 1:09 am]: so it could be the sell you're talking about
Videre Licet [November 16, 2013 - 1:09 am]: to protect themselves with savings. In our current system, power is achieved by the manipulation of currency people believe is money. It is possible to take away the currency and the power yet maintain an honest money free market capitalist system. The people in control have already had everything in abundance for generations and this utopia has never been their experience, what makes you think th
Videre Licet [November 16, 2013 - 1:10 am]: this project will be any different with the masses? The cry of “this time it will be different” is as shallow as ever, it’s not different, it’s never different. It has never been different and it never will be. People would find other things to fight about: sex, gossip, art, fashion, music, etc. There is no way I will ever buy into this experiment on a global scale without at least a trace
Videre Licet [November 16, 2013 - 1:11 am]: of plausibility. The only way for this system to be functional is to abandon its principles from the outset since without some new religion to indoctrinate the people with its new philosophy the idea is pure fantasy.
ArmunnRigh [November 16, 2013 - 1:12 am]: I back that comment completely, and the religion mentioned is a key aspect - a new story
ArmunnRigh [November 16, 2013 - 1:12 am]: where did you find that comment? do you think this might be the sale you see ahead?
Videre Licet [November 16, 2013 - 1:12 am]: yes
Videre Licet [November 16, 2013 - 1:12 am]: <a href="http://www.pointbite.com/2008/10/08/zeitgeist-addendum-and-the-venus-project-hoax/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">http://www.pointbite.com/2008/10/08/zeitgeist-addendum-and-the-venus-project-hoax/</a>
ArmunnRigh [November 16, 2013 - 1:13 am]: thanks Videre, that's a reality check if I ever had one :)
ArmunnRigh [November 16, 2013 - 1:13 am]: you tied up a few loose ends for me with your insight
Videre Licet [November 16, 2013 - 1:16 am]: Just as confused as anyone else that has made it this far
ArmunnRigh [November 16, 2013 - 1:17 am]: the whole point of sharing personal points of view is exactly to fill in gaps we may have missed
Videre Licet [November 16, 2013 - 1:18 am]: I LOVE,LOVE,LOVE listening to ab's show.  Just bothered by the few obvious personalities that make it all feel fake.  Can't we have at least one show where it doesn't feel controlled?
ArmunnRigh [November 16, 2013 - 1:18 am]: I would very much like to have this discussed with you over a future raw call, videre. Ab might like to set one up for it, I'm sure.
Videre Licet [November 16, 2013 - 1:19 am]: had to share...
ArmunnRigh [November 16, 2013 - 1:20 am]: would you be willing to participate on such a raw call to discuss this?
Videre Licet [November 16, 2013 - 1:20 am]: i have
ArmunnRigh [November 16, 2013 - 1:20 am]: which episode?
Jan Erik Hansen [November 16, 2013 - 1:50 am]: <a href="http://one-evil.org/content/entities_locations_venice.html" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">http://one-evil.org/content/entities_locations_venice.html</a>
Jan Erik Hansen [November 16, 2013 - 1:52 am]: <a href="http://tarpley.net/online-books/against-oligarchy/giammaria-ortes-the-decadent-venetian-kook-who-originated-the-myth-of-carrying-capacity/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">http://tarpley.net/online-books/against-oligarchy/giammaria-ortes-the-decadent-venetian-kook-who-originated-the-myth-of-carrying-capacity/</a>
Jan Erik Hansen [November 16, 2013 - 1:57 am]: <a href="http://translate.google.com/translate?act=url&#038;depth=1&#038;hl=no&#038;ie=UTF8&#038;prev=_t&#038;rurl=translate.google.no&#038;sl=it&#038;tl=en&#038;u=http://it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Obertenghi" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">http://translate.google.com/translate?act=url&#038;depth=1&#038;hl=no&#038;ie=UTF8&#038;prev=_t&#038;rurl=translate.google.no&#038;sl=it&#038;tl=en&#038;u=http://it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Obertenghi</a>
Rollo [November 16, 2013 - 2:24 am]: Good Evening ALL.....
ArmunnRigh [November 16, 2013 - 2:24 am]: ahoy there
Rollo [November 16, 2013 - 2:25 am]: Are you a Sea fairing man?
ArmunnRigh [November 16, 2013 - 2:26 am]: no, but I live by the sea, does that count?
Rollo [November 16, 2013 - 2:26 am]: Land Lover :)
Rollo [November 16, 2013 - 2:27 am]: probably counts ...just like the one on Seasame Street ....ahahahahahahah
ArmunnRigh [November 16, 2013 - 2:27 am]: which one :D?
Rollo [November 16, 2013 - 2:28 am]: I know Jan said we should live in the moment...but Im looking forward to hearing the "Shack" on the morrow
ArmunnRigh [November 16, 2013 - 2:30 am]: isn't that a song?
Rollo [November 16, 2013 - 2:30 am]: or was that me?
ArmunnRigh [November 16, 2013 - 2:30 am]: B52's
ArmunnRigh [November 16, 2013 - 2:30 am]: you Love Shack
Rollo [November 16, 2013 - 2:30 am]: many songs have been sung about it
Rollo [November 16, 2013 - 2:31 am]: yup...I prefer Rock Lobster
ArmunnRigh [November 16, 2013 - 2:31 am]: <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=leohcvmf8kM" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=leohcvmf8kM</a>
Rollo [November 16, 2013 - 2:32 am]: my best friend used to murder "Love Shack " at Karaoki every week.....he destroyed that tune for me
ArmunnRigh [November 16, 2013 - 2:32 am]: LOL
ArmunnRigh [November 16, 2013 - 2:32 am]: beer and karaoke don't mix
Rollo [November 16, 2013 - 2:33 am]: notice they dont have 'KISS" I was made for loving you on Karaoki....Wonder Why? :)
ArmunnRigh [November 16, 2013 - 2:33 am]: too gay?
Rollo [November 16, 2013 - 2:33 am]: beer and Karaoki mix...if you have a semblance of talent
Rollo [November 16, 2013 - 2:34 am]: um no wrong answer....no-one human can sing the "cant get enought line" in the tune
ArmunnRigh [November 16, 2013 - 2:34 am]: squeeze your balls and you'll reach it :D
Rollo [November 16, 2013 - 2:35 am]: my Balls of Stainles Steel
Rollo [November 16, 2013 - 2:36 am]: so what been going on in my abscence....AB Sences these things......Want to here about my vacation?
ArmunnRigh [November 16, 2013 - 2:36 am]: indulge us!
Rollo [November 16, 2013 - 2:37 am]: JUst like the Griswalds in '82 :)
Rollo [November 16, 2013 - 2:37 am]: only difference Wally World was open
Rollo [November 16, 2013 - 2:38 am]: probably makes no sence....Me and the wife had a lovely 2 weeks together
ArmunnRigh [November 16, 2013 - 2:39 am]: sounds really neat
Rollo [November 16, 2013 - 2:40 am]: the Raw calls were rockin back here....Im glad for the invite back.Banazirs easiest petition....got the feeling I wasnt welcome....
Videre Licet [November 16, 2013 - 2:41 am]: :D
ArmunnRigh [November 16, 2013 - 2:41 am]: what gave you that impression? We never talked!
Rollo [November 16, 2013 - 2:41 am]: Gday "V"....one of my favorite shows in the 80's
Rollo [November 16, 2013 - 2:43 am]: not from you mate.......it was from Hoax busters the next monday....anyway it doesnt matter.....I spoke to Ab and he welcomed me back kindly
ArmunnRigh [November 16, 2013 - 2:44 am]: but I have liestened to past shows, rollo, you gotta let people finish what they're saying, dude!
Rollo [November 16, 2013 - 2:44 am]: you bet....
Rollo [November 16, 2013 - 2:46 am]: I have issues as do we all, I know the Absolutist is Absolutely correct...
ArmunnRigh [November 16, 2013 - 2:47 am]: who's that guy?
Rollo [November 16, 2013 - 2:47 am]: you know
ArmunnRigh [November 16, 2013 - 2:47 am]: Louis XIV?
Rollo [November 16, 2013 - 2:47 am]: nope
Rollo [November 16, 2013 - 2:48 am]: try again
ArmunnRigh [November 16, 2013 - 2:48 am]: there can be only another
ArmunnRigh [November 16, 2013 - 2:48 am]: Markus Allen is the Absolutist who is always Absolutely correct!
Rollo [November 16, 2013 - 2:49 am]: There can be only One.....Highlander
Rollo [November 16, 2013 - 2:49 am]: I like Markus
ArmunnRigh [November 16, 2013 - 2:50 am]: I don't :)
Rollo [November 16, 2013 - 2:50 am]: Most people like me.....the ones who don't I like the most....because I like to know why
ArmunnRigh [November 16, 2013 - 2:51 am]: you seem an alright guy, a bit rash, but hey, you'd fit in in Portugal
ArmunnRigh [November 16, 2013 - 2:51 am]: :D
Rollo [November 16, 2013 - 2:52 am]: I seem to fit in anywhere
ArmunnRigh [November 16, 2013 - 2:52 am]: oh now you're going to give us a rundown of your sexual expertise? :D
Rollo [November 16, 2013 - 2:52 am]: GO WITH THE FLOW ....MOSTLY
Rollo [November 16, 2013 - 2:53 am]: OOPS CAPS
Rollo [November 16, 2013 - 2:53 am]: Im not shouting....Im calm...prefer skyping than typing
ArmunnRigh [November 16, 2013 - 2:54 am]: I'm plan on calling in tomorrow as I have a question for Simon
Rollo [November 16, 2013 - 2:54 am]: Kewl...I have a few too
ArmunnRigh [November 16, 2013 - 2:56 am]: well then we will meet (in voice) at the call, gotta go now
Rollo [November 16, 2013 - 2:56 am]: you bet.....nice chatting champ
Rollo [November 16, 2013 - 2:58 am]: Hows life treating you Videre?
Videre Licet [November 16, 2013 - 3:55 am]: Off to sleep.  Will look for you tomorrow Rollo :o)
aralsea [November 16, 2013 - 6:27 am]: Another 9/11 Predictive programming album cover released Sept 2000. <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:MK_Sailing_to_Philadelphia.jpg" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:MK_Sailing_to_Philadelphia.jpg</a>
ArmunnRigh [November 16, 2013 - 11:20 am]: @aralsea: indeed!
ArmunnRigh [November 16, 2013 - 11:34 am]: @Brian-Staveley: historic last show with Fetzer, eh? :)
Brian-Staveley [November 16, 2013 - 11:49 am]: hahah did you hear that? He was sooooo mad that he hung up early. I messaged him and thanked him for coming on and he inboxed late last night and said: James Henry Fetzer
Thanks, Brian.  I'm glad to know it was not a set up
Brian-Staveley [November 16, 2013 - 11:49 am]: lol
Brian-Staveley [November 16, 2013 - 11:51 am]: there was no setup. Callers just werent letting him off the hook so easy and neither were we.We brought forward that stuff to his attention like 11 months ago and he says its the first time he heard of it.lol. We already discredited Scott Forbes and he knows that.
ArmunnRigh [November 16, 2013 - 12:03 pm]: someone in his position, if he is honest, must be able to face the heat - evasion or ignoring the tough questions is what we see every day
Brian-Staveley [November 16, 2013 - 12:05 pm]: Yea exactly and whenever I bring up no deaths in the towers or photoshopped memorials or any of that he dodges the questions and tries to divert away. Everytime he's on he pretends something key we brought up before like hes never heard it even though it was said directly to him
Brian-Staveley [November 16, 2013 - 12:06 pm]: Ab...you guys are talkin Ace Baker?? He was actually on the radio a cpl nights ago . i listened to  it
ArmunnRigh [November 16, 2013 - 12:08 pm]: yeah, on John Friend
Brian-Staveley [November 16, 2013 - 12:16 pm]: yes exactly
Rollo [November 16, 2013 - 12:46 pm]: Is this the calm before the SmallStorm?...why on earth did Ace Baker not mention Simon Shack once during that JF interview?
ArmunnRigh [November 16, 2013 - 12:52 pm]: I'd rather ask why didn't John mention Simon once to Baker during the interview
Rollo [November 16, 2013 - 12:53 pm]: good point
ArmunnRigh [November 16, 2013 - 12:56 pm]: @Rollo: check this out - <a href="http://fakeologist.com/2013/11/13/john-meets-ace-with-tom/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">http://fakeologist.com/2013/11/13/john-meets-ace-with-tom/</a>
Brian-Staveley [November 16, 2013 - 12:56 pm]: Hey Jan. How are you?
Rollo [November 16, 2013 - 12:59 pm]: Heh I like smj's question ..why would a grown man call himself ace? ...because he's an Acehole
ArmunnRigh [November 16, 2013 - 1:00 pm]: LOL :D
Brian-Staveley [November 16, 2013 - 1:03 pm]: haha
Jan Erik Hansen [November 16, 2013 - 1:04 pm]: I am OK looking forward to  show.
Brian-Staveley [November 16, 2013 - 1:05 pm]: I hope I can get it on my phone cuz i might be on the road.
ArmunnRigh [November 16, 2013 - 1:09 pm]: @Brian-Staveley: Maybe this will you "get it on" your phone? :D <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BKPoHgKcqag" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BKPoHgKcqag</a>
ArmunnRigh [November 16, 2013 - 1:11 pm]: @Rollo: This is another good tune for the karaoke heh?
UNreal [November 16, 2013 - 1:11 pm]: Sofia Smallstorm suspects renewed focus on nuclear radiation might be used to cover ever increasing cell &amp; wireless radiation, covered in the very interesting last 20 minutes of <a href="http://nwopodcast.com/fetz/media/jim%20fetzer%20real%20deal-smallstorm%20sandy%20hook%20plus%20fukushima.mp3" target="_blank">latest Real Deal w. Fetzer</a>
UNreal [November 16, 2013 - 1:13 pm]: Fits well with the no-nuclear theory &amp; useful many companys that could face major lawsuits in the future
Rollo [November 16, 2013 - 1:25 pm]: @Armun ......Way too tricky for Karaoki....KISS mate :)
ArmunnRigh [November 16, 2013 - 1:25 pm]: it would make you popular with the ladies though! :D
Rollo [November 16, 2013 - 1:26 pm]: Yep that stuff gets ya in there
ArmunnRigh [November 16, 2013 - 1:29 pm]: or you can try this one: <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qdTDFUaaL9s" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qdTDFUaaL9s</a> :D
Rollo [November 16, 2013 - 1:46 pm]: Seeing we're going to be talking 911...this is the Tune and its not for Karaoke <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GLPUIUOOiSo" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GLPUIUOOiSo</a>
Rollo [November 16, 2013 - 1:52 pm]: that one is way too negative...take 2...try this one instead <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f5_y0s-COl8" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f5_y0s-COl8</a>
Rollo [November 16, 2013 - 2:06 pm]: Anyone who thinks there's this invisible enemy out to get us ...this is the answer <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fp9DHzgr758" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fp9DHzgr758</a>
Banazir Galbasi [November 16, 2013 - 2:11 pm]: Hey Rollo. I was being genuine. I meant easy to get everyone to sign. It should be called Rawlo in your honor. :D
columjaddica [November 16, 2013 - 2:12 pm]: Looking back at the chatroom I have a few cents on Markus Allen. I found his site not long after Sandy Hook (which was kind of a wake-up event for me). On both his truthinsevenminutes, and hearing him on radio shows, he just sounds like a salesman. Really big turn off for some reason even though I agree with the *content* on his site (at least months ago last time I looked).
columjaddica [November 16, 2013 - 2:13 pm]: He always sounds like he's pitching corruption to other researchers. That we all have to play a certain game or we won't get traffic.
columjaddica [November 16, 2013 - 2:15 pm]: The idea that he sounds similar to wellaware1 is interesting. I'll have to listen to both and make my own conclusion. I certainly don't trust wellaware1, who seemingly had an army of spammers in every popular news story comment thread spamming earlobe actor theories a whol year before Sandy Hook.
ArmunnRigh [November 16, 2013 - 2:16 pm]: @columjaddica: Oh yeah
Rollo [November 16, 2013 - 2:17 pm]: @Ban ....thanks champ....I enjoy talking to you...its nice to see the raw calls going well as well
Rollo [November 16, 2013 - 2:19 pm]: or should I say hear the raw calls...I wasnt being Absolutist
columjaddica [November 16, 2013 - 2:22 pm]: I think Markus Allen was a member on the forum I help run too for a short period of time earlier this year. I think he had some compliments for us but didn't participate much and I eventually removed the account (we remove accounts that go unused or silent use)
ArmunnRigh [November 16, 2013 - 2:23 pm]: praise is a form of marketing
columjaddica [November 16, 2013 - 2:23 pm]: If I remember correctly there wasn
columjaddica [November 16, 2013 - 2:23 pm]: sorry, wasn't any real participation, just compliments
ArmunnRigh [November 16, 2013 - 2:24 pm]: yeah, praise is a form of marketing
columjaddica [November 16, 2013 - 2:25 pm]: We went private after some people started showing up and saying things like "Oh I love your analysis here, really fantastic, just wanted to say thanks and can I get a list of active participants here?"
columjaddica [November 16, 2013 - 2:25 pm]: Then you dig into the screen-name of that person and find out they live one city away from Newtown and their family has long naval intelligence history
columjaddica [November 16, 2013 - 2:26 pm]: Yeah, time to go private...
columjaddica [November 16, 2013 - 2:27 pm]: Still not sure how to deal with that. If you go private then you have twice as much work writing up things on a separate public blog. Most of what I dig into never ends up posted anywhere publicly, so what's the point? We had a lot of trolls and suspect people when public though
columjaddica [November 16, 2013 - 2:29 pm]: Even after going private we had one participant copying private conversations and mocking them on his own blog (all over his obsession with homosexuals, which we all had slightly differing beliefs on, he didn'
columjaddica [November 16, 2013 - 2:29 pm]: didn
columjaddica [November 16, 2013 - 2:30 pm]: he was extremist on that and willing to throw away everything just to mock a few people because they didn't care about the subject much
columjaddica [November 16, 2013 - 2:31 pm]: It is a lot of work to run an internet community, especially a public one like fakeologist
ArmunnRigh [November 16, 2013 - 2:31 pm]: sure is
Banazir Galbasi [November 16, 2013 - 2:31 pm]: Hi Rollo. Yes they are lots of fun. Im proud of my friend Dusty for calling in to Brian Stavely and confronting Fetzer the other day. Did you hear That one?
Rollo [November 16, 2013 - 2:36 pm]: @ban please drop the link
Banazir Galbasi [November 16, 2013 - 2:42 pm]: I get the same feeling from markus. I like his information but there is a tone to his voice like he is talking down to you. I don't want to insult the guy and I don't think he is trying to necessarily deceive but he tends to take the first shot at others accusing them of shillery a little too early I think.
Rollo [November 16, 2013 - 2:44 pm]: Ban ...do you have a link to Dusty Brian Fatzer thing? Id like to hear it
columjaddica [November 16, 2013 - 2:44 pm]: Yeah, it's his tone, also the nag popups on his site. Just put the information out there and let people take it or leave it...
ArmunnRigh [November 16, 2013 - 2:44 pm]: @Rollo: <a href="http://www.therealnewsonline.com/uploads/6/5/2/9/6529494/fetzer_911_11_13_20_part_1a_2cd_cut.mp3" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">http://www.therealnewsonline.com/uploads/6/5/2/9/6529494/fetzer_911_11_13_20_part_1a_2cd_cut.mp3</a>
Rollo [November 16, 2013 - 2:44 pm]: thanks
ArmunnRigh [November 16, 2013 - 2:44 pm]: @Rollo: and <a href="http://www.therealnewsonline.com/uploads/6/5/2/9/6529494/fetzer_911_11_13_20_part_2_shortened.mp3" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">http://www.therealnewsonline.com/uploads/6/5/2/9/6529494/fetzer_911_11_13_20_part_2_shortened.mp3</a>
Banazir Galbasi [November 16, 2013 - 2:45 pm]: Rollo when you first were on Abs show within a few minutes Markus accused you of being a phoney  ioand of course you have spoken with him since then. Lately he has mentioned hat he wants to punch you in the face!
Banazir Galbasi [November 16, 2013 - 2:45 pm]: Cheers Armunn.
Rollo [November 16, 2013 - 2:45 pm]: I just want give him a great big Hug.....
ArmunnRigh [November 16, 2013 - 2:45 pm]: yo Banazir
ArmunnRigh [November 16, 2013 - 2:45 pm]: @Rollo: Bear hug
Rollo [November 16, 2013 - 2:46 pm]: heh
Rollo [November 16, 2013 - 2:48 pm]: In my opinion he was rude to Simon...i gave the same thing back to him.....sometimes Two wrongs make a right
Banazir Galbasi [November 16, 2013 - 2:48 pm]: Of course he iS famous for accusing Simon of being a shill,  Its like if he's ever wrong about so
columjaddica [November 16, 2013 - 2:48 pm]: Nobody cares that running a site costs money. I own three domains, three ssl certs, and three virtual private servers. That costs money and I am certainly not wealthy but this is my hobby and it matters to me to have an opportunity to speak. I don't need to sell other people on my methods and don't understand people like Markus that feel they have to.
Banazir Galbasi [November 16, 2013 - 2:49 pm]: someone he cant admit he was wrong and move on.
Rollo [November 16, 2013 - 2:50 pm]: Ive epic failed many times...just got to try and get right the next time..
columjaddica [November 16, 2013 - 2:54 pm]: I've a question on the histogram spreadsheet. Is there a standard of significance to be included? There are a large amount of what appear to be psyops every day that aren't of the scale that is currently included. I mean the commuter train accidents, industrial accidents, bus flippings, etc that appear to have been an exercise presented as reality when you view the media.
columjaddica [November 16, 2013 - 2:56 pm]: One example would be the fire at the Blue Rhino in Tavares Florida. The thing was clearly a training exercise and took place a block away from a first responder training academy. The news stories even admitted that the facility was frequently used for firefighter training, but does something like this not notable enough to be included?
columjaddica [November 16, 2013 - 3:05 pm]: There are a dozen stories a day that look to be likely fake, but when it's stuff like transportation disasters with low casualty counts it's hard to say for certain. Accidents DO happen but I'm pretty certain the majority of accidents that make the ticker or a story on say CNN are fake. They are trying to justify the grid in control of transportation and are trying to show an increase in disast
columjaddica [November 16, 2013 - 3:07 pm]: Much as Eric Holder recently claimed a threefold increase in active shooter incidents they are trying to show an increase in urban disasters to go along with programs like the Rockefeller 100 years 100 cities resiliency challenge. So we get a ton of minor psyops every day, just to ratchet up the fear associated with transportation and to fudge the statistics to show "something needs to be done"
JohnnyClues [November 16, 2013 - 3:08 pm]: @Banazir Galbasi: Dusty was good cornering  fetzer.....who couldn't take the heat it seemed
Rollo [November 16, 2013 - 3:09 pm]: @Ban Im enjoying this Stavely Vs Fatzer audio........let me know when Ab &amp; Simon get going
Jan Erik Hansen [November 16, 2013 - 3:16 pm]: This is going to be AWESOME i think :-D !!!
ArmunnRigh [November 16, 2013 - 3:18 pm]: @Rollo: it's on
Jan Erik Hansen [November 16, 2013 - 3:20 pm]: B)
Jan Erik Hansen [November 16, 2013 - 3:21 pm]: <a href="http://legal-dictionary.thefreedictionary.com/Cointelpro" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">http://legal-dictionary.thefreedictionary.com/Cointelpro</a>
Banazir Galbasi [November 16, 2013 - 3:27 pm]: Didn't he die first and then release his videos?
ArmunnRigh [November 16, 2013 - 3:27 pm]: like Jesus
Banazir Galbasi [November 16, 2013 - 3:27 pm]: Ace Rimmer that is...
Banazir Galbasi [November 16, 2013 - 3:28 pm]: Died January 6 2009, then 2010 and on the videos...
ab [November 16, 2013 - 3:29 pm]: <a href="http://www.cluesforum.info/viewtopic.php?t=1094&#038;p=2388150#p2388150" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">http://www.cluesforum.info/viewtopic.php?t=1094&#038;p=2388150#p2388150</a>
Banazir Galbasi [November 16, 2013 - 3:34 pm]: ab you're much louder than Simon and the video
Banazir Galbasi [November 16, 2013 - 3:37 pm]: Should  John Friend be questioned at this point? Anyone's take?
Carole Thomas [November 16, 2013 - 3:38 pm]: Why didn't John refer to Simon?
ArmunnRigh [November 16, 2013 - 3:42 pm]: exactly, Carole
ArmunnRigh [November 16, 2013 - 3:42 pm]: I commented extensively on that
Carole Thomas [November 16, 2013 - 3:44 pm]: Haven't had a chance to review comments yet - sorry!
ArmunnRigh [November 16, 2013 - 3:44 pm]: <a href="http://fakeologist.com/2013/11/07/simon-meets-tom-and-friend/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">http://fakeologist.com/2013/11/07/simon-meets-tom-and-friend/</a>
Carole Thomas [November 16, 2013 - 3:45 pm]: Thanks:)
Carole Thomas [November 16, 2013 - 3:46 pm]: This is the first time I've listened in live -exciting!
Jan Erik Hansen [November 16, 2013 - 3:46 pm]: Logical falicy : apeal to authorety just now.
ArmunnRigh [November 16, 2013 - 3:46 pm]: stay on for the raw, Carole
Carole Thomas [November 16, 2013 - 3:47 pm]: Is Ab gonna do Raw after this?
ArmunnRigh [November 16, 2013 - 3:47 pm]: he said he might
ab [November 16, 2013 - 3:47 pm]: maybe tonite at 9:11
Carole Thomas [November 16, 2013 - 3:48 pm]: Good time for it:)
Rollo [November 16, 2013 - 3:48 pm]: you should :)
ArmunnRigh [November 16, 2013 - 3:48 pm]: the german lady said it, ab
ArmunnRigh [November 16, 2013 - 3:48 pm]: obey! :D
Carole Thomas [November 16, 2013 - 3:50 pm]: Not German but live in Hamburg
ArmunnRigh [November 16, 2013 - 3:50 pm]: ah so? genau!
ArmunnRigh [November 16, 2013 - 3:50 pm]: :)
JohnnyClues [November 16, 2013 - 3:51 pm]: @Rollo: good to see you back from vacation
Rollo [November 16, 2013 - 3:51 pm]: Nice to be back...with Shack in the House doesnt get better than this.....
Carole Thomas [November 16, 2013 - 3:51 pm]: Rollo always has me in stitches
Carole Thomas [November 16, 2013 - 3:51 pm]: Nice to have him back
Rollo [November 16, 2013 - 3:52 pm]: Lennon speaks way to quick for my slow brain
Carole Thomas [November 16, 2013 - 3:53 pm]: Like a pneumatic drill
Banazir Galbasi [November 16, 2013 - 3:54 pm]: No way they can animate buildings blowing up in 2001. Not counting  ID4, Armageddon, Deep Impact, Die Hard, Star Wars or any other action movie ever made...
Carole Thomas [November 16, 2013 - 3:54 pm]: Exploding buildings is so 90s!
Brian-Staveley [November 16, 2013 - 3:55 pm]: a video on just the collapses being fake would be of good use.
Rollo [November 16, 2013 - 3:56 pm]: well done ban ...I had that question written down for simon...in case we can call in and talk to simon towards the end of the show
ArmunnRigh [November 16, 2013 - 3:57 pm]: i have a question too
ab [November 16, 2013 - 3:57 pm]: <a href="http://www.cluesforum.info/viewforum.php?f=20&#038;sid=b324c0b715f73959f8bfb94e2a62fb3f" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">http://www.cluesforum.info/viewforum.php?f=20&#038;sid=b324c0b715f73959f8bfb94e2a62fb3f</a>
Brian-Staveley [November 16, 2013 - 3:57 pm]: Fetzer was pissed
ArmunnRigh [November 16, 2013 - 3:58 pm]: and Mike from LA
ArmunnRigh [November 16, 2013 - 3:58 pm]: credits deserved
Brian-Staveley [November 16, 2013 - 3:58 pm]: cuz they can be in complete control of it and maybe they wanted to install me fear with the way they did it
Brian-Staveley [November 16, 2013 - 3:59 pm]: *more fear
Brian-Staveley [November 16, 2013 - 3:59 pm]: I agree with Simon on this. I just would love to be able to prove it a little easier
Rollo [November 16, 2013 - 4:00 pm]: Nothing like Keeping it Simple Simon......this rocks my world
Carole Thomas [November 16, 2013 - 4:01 pm]: The plan is to keep people chasing their own tails
Brian-Staveley [November 16, 2013 - 4:01 pm]: the fake collapses make it easy for them to make the towers come down ridiculously fast.The speed and uniformty of the collapses instilled fear in everyone
Carole Thomas [November 16, 2013 - 4:03 pm]: F.E.A.R. = False Events Appearing Real
ArmunnRigh [November 16, 2013 - 4:03 pm]: LOL
ArmunnRigh [November 16, 2013 - 4:03 pm]: nice one Carole
Rollo [November 16, 2013 - 4:03 pm]: the only thing you have to fear is fear........Everybody.......
Carole Thomas [November 16, 2013 - 4:03 pm]: :)
Rollo [November 16, 2013 - 4:03 pm]: ITSELF
Brian-Staveley [November 16, 2013 - 4:04 pm]: What do you guys in your opinion think is the best video demonstrating the collapses being fake
Brian-Staveley [November 16, 2013 - 4:04 pm]: armageddon just before 9/11 look just as realistic if not better
Carole Thomas [November 16, 2013 - 4:04 pm]: The birds did it for me.
Rollo [November 16, 2013 - 4:04 pm]: speeding up....heheh
Carole Thomas [November 16, 2013 - 4:04 pm]: Yeo!
Carole Thomas [November 16, 2013 - 4:06 pm]: And the wobbling bridge.
Rollo [November 16, 2013 - 4:07 pm]: not sure it was wobbling....but had know idea where it wanted to be
Carole Thomas [November 16, 2013 - 4:07 pm]: OK not wobbling but behaving badly
Rollo [November 16, 2013 - 4:09 pm]: I wobble and behave badly sometimes....
Carole Thomas [November 16, 2013 - 4:09 pm]: Pretty much the whole of lower Manhattan was behaving badly:)
Carole Thomas [November 16, 2013 - 4:10 pm]: Hehe
Brian-Staveley [November 16, 2013 - 4:14 pm]: all the extra theories keeps the small percentage of us that care seperated in different camps and most cant work with each other. They accomplished their goal pretty well
Brian-Staveley [November 16, 2013 - 4:16 pm]: i dont think nukes wouldnt make it look like that lol. even if they are real
Brian-Staveley [November 16, 2013 - 4:16 pm]: i mean i DONT think nukes would make it look like that. TYPO
Carole Thomas [November 16, 2013 - 4:18 pm]: Why is it that some people never ask these questions and just accept the official story on everything? What happened to curiosity?
Rollo [November 16, 2013 - 4:18 pm]: Deaductive reasoning isnt a11owed
Jan Erik Hansen [November 16, 2013 - 4:21 pm]: No people who aply that are INSANE ?
Brian-Staveley [November 16, 2013 - 4:21 pm]: nope
Brian-Staveley [November 16, 2013 - 4:21 pm]: def not!
Rollo [November 16, 2013 - 4:21 pm]: hey ab could you please ask simon why JF didnt mention September clues?
Brian-Staveley [November 16, 2013 - 4:21 pm]: Ab your right about that
ab [November 16, 2013 - 4:22 pm]: @Rollo: in this interview?
Rollo [November 16, 2013 - 4:23 pm]: please
Brian-Staveley [November 16, 2013 - 4:23 pm]: yes. i think he means this interview. John addresed why he didnt but i dont remember what he said
ArmunnRigh [November 16, 2013 - 4:23 pm]: «I wanna come home...» - <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oK9876dk_zg" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oK9876dk_zg</a>
ArmunnRigh [November 16, 2013 - 4:25 pm]: Ab, I do have an important question for Simon, Rollo has another. Really no time to squeeze in a few questions?
Brian-Staveley [November 16, 2013 - 4:26 pm]: Ace not only says it was video composites rather than CGI,but he says that some of this was done in real time,like the chopper 5 shots. I think thats ridiculous. This was well planned in advance and didnt need to be down on  the fly. too much can go wrong
ab [November 16, 2013 - 4:26 pm]: ok we'll fit them in then
Rollo [November 16, 2013 - 4:26 pm]: good man
Brian-Staveley [November 16, 2013 - 4:29 pm]: its too easy to make almost any numbers fit into the numerolgy stuff in my opinion. my radio partner is really into too.
ArmunnRigh [November 16, 2013 - 4:29 pm]: true
Rollo [November 16, 2013 - 4:29 pm]: Ab &amp; simon keeping it real on the numbers thing.......nice
ab [November 16, 2013 - 4:29 pm]: @Brian-Staveley: I suppose. I'm sure it's part of their signature though
Brian-Staveley [November 16, 2013 - 4:31 pm]: i  think in many cases it is.I just think sometimes ppl will say it about almost every number. I think that stuff isnt the best stuff to bring up tryna wake ppl up,but hey we are all awake here and Im not shooting it down totally.
columjaddica [November 16, 2013 - 4:31 pm]: The thing about numbers is strange. I think they are important but it's also bizarre how often the numbers come up in random stuff in my own life, and I know I am not choosing the numbers. If you start playing number+- /*number = evil number then almost everything looks like an evil number
Rollo [November 16, 2013 - 4:32 pm]: We live in a house of numbers...along with the odd word
Brian-Staveley [November 16, 2013 - 4:33 pm]: be back soon guys.gotta eat real quick
ArmunnRigh [November 16, 2013 - 4:33 pm]: chew your food
Carole Thomas [November 16, 2013 - 4:33 pm]: The numbers refer to the human body imo. The original priesthood were anatomists.
Brian-Staveley [November 16, 2013 - 4:34 pm]: lol
ab [November 16, 2013 - 4:34 pm]: @Carole Thomas: yes 33 vertebrae I understand
Rollo [November 16, 2013 - 4:35 pm]: I have 11 brain cells
ArmunnRigh [November 16, 2013 - 4:35 pm]: LOL
Carole Thomas [November 16, 2013 - 4:35 pm]: Rollo has gone over to the dark side - beware!
ArmunnRigh [November 16, 2013 - 4:35 pm]: he is NOT my father!
Rollo [November 16, 2013 - 4:36 pm]: Spoilers :)
Rollo [November 16, 2013 - 4:37 pm]: Simon called this the Roadrunner shot....
Rollo [November 16, 2013 - 4:37 pm]: Plane would hit the side and bounce off
Banazir Galbasi [November 16, 2013 - 4:39 pm]: Why did witnesses film the empty sky and pan across to the towers only to have the planes inserted later?
Carole Thomas [November 16, 2013 - 4:40 pm]: We are at the castle keep
Rollo [November 16, 2013 - 4:40 pm]: Fakery within the Fakery....Go Simon
ArmunnRigh [November 16, 2013 - 4:41 pm]: ok, I got the answer to my question, ab
ab [November 16, 2013 - 4:41 pm]: @ArmunnRigh: ok
Carole Thomas [November 16, 2013 - 4:41 pm]: What was your question, Armunn?
ArmunnRigh [November 16, 2013 - 4:42 pm]: it was : Was the chopper 5 shot all CGI or composite? In either case, was the clear nose out "glitch" done on purpose or was it a mistake?
columjaddica [November 16, 2013 - 4:42 pm]: I believe that everybody from the local weather guy on up knows that the news is full of fakery.
columjaddica [November 16, 2013 - 4:42 pm]: Do you work with chroma keying on a daily basis? Well, it'
columjaddica [November 16, 2013 - 4:43 pm]: it's pretty hard to stay blind to all of the fake stories. (Sorry, I always hit enter by accident here at the chat, drives me crazy)
columjaddica [November 16, 2013 - 4:46 pm]: I struggle with the idea that a hundred-thousand people or more (in the US) might know what's going on but stay silent or go along. Although around the recent psyops there seems to be a lot of thinly veiled bragging going on (by the bystanders, people involved), so perhaps the silence is coming to an end. So many of the recent psyops seem to be designed to be uncovered.
Banazir Galbasi [November 16, 2013 - 4:46 pm]: I thought John did mention it briefly, SC.
columjaddica [November 16, 2013 - 4:47 pm]: The LAX thing was obvious but also spawned a hoax about the shooting death of a former NSA director. Then a wave of indignation on Twitter from journalists whining that such fakery could make it into mainstream media (how meta!)
Banazir Galbasi [November 16, 2013 - 4:48 pm]: SeptembeR Clues that is.
Carole Thomas [November 16, 2013 - 4:51 pm]: Simon is so modest.
Rollo [November 16, 2013 - 4:51 pm]: hes a good man
Carole Thomas [November 16, 2013 - 4:54 pm]: SC is a watering hole - no cult.
ArmunnRigh [November 16, 2013 - 4:57 pm]: I'm 16!
Carole Thomas [November 16, 2013 - 4:58 pm]: I have the same problem with my kids!
Rollo [November 16, 2013 - 4:58 pm]: bullshit
Rollo [November 16, 2013 - 4:58 pm]: im 11
Carole Thomas [November 16, 2013 - 4:58 pm]: School system is very powerful
ArmunnRigh [November 16, 2013 - 4:59 pm]: 11+16=27=2+7=9!
Carole Thomas [November 16, 2013 - 4:59 pm]: Armunn is a Kabbalist!
ArmunnRigh [November 16, 2013 - 5:00 pm]: Cavala in portugal is a fish
Carole Thomas [November 16, 2013 - 5:00 pm]: Very fishy!
Rollo [November 16, 2013 - 5:01 pm]: 9 is a powerful number .....Multiply any number between 1 and 10 by nine and then add the digits together...
columjaddica [November 16, 2013 - 5:01 pm]: Children today have no escape from peer pressure. 24/7/365 the social networks follow them around on their mobile. Judged 24 hours a day. Of course they are going to go with the crowd
ArmunnRigh [November 16, 2013 - 5:02 pm]: Cavalas = <a href="http://img.alibaba.com/photo/671053176/scientific_name_of_mackerel_fish.jpg" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">http://img.alibaba.com/photo/671053176/scientific_name_of_mackerel_fish.jpg</a>
Carole Thomas [November 16, 2013 - 5:03 pm]: MackerEL - the god fish:)
ArmunnRigh [November 16, 2013 - 5:03 pm]: bigger mackerels are called carapaus
Carole Thomas [November 16, 2013 - 5:06 pm]: I hope I have sown some seeds of doubt in my kids but I don't want them to feel like freaks
ArmunnRigh [November 16, 2013 - 5:09 pm]: @ab: no thorium was found at ground zero, so no nukes were used: IRREFUTABLE EVIDENCE :D
Rollo [November 16, 2013 - 5:10 pm]: exploding plants.....beats imploding Carrots
ArmunnRigh [November 16, 2013 - 5:10 pm]: I had a bean soup explode on me once - barely made it alive
Jan Erik Hansen [November 16, 2013 - 5:11 pm]: ArmunnRigh the nuber cruncher :-D
Rollo [November 16, 2013 - 5:11 pm]: heh
Rollo [November 16, 2013 - 5:12 pm]: Jan &amp; Arm ....please be kind to the nubers
Jan Erik Hansen [November 16, 2013 - 5:12 pm]: Masonic Symbolism &amp; 9/11 Occult Numerology  <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b3gJZw6X-LA" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b3gJZw6X-LA</a>
ArmunnRigh [November 16, 2013 - 5:14 pm]: this part is verbatim of what he said in his video
Jan Erik Hansen [November 16, 2013 - 5:14 pm]: ACE is a TURD !
Jan Erik Hansen [November 16, 2013 - 5:14 pm]: :)
Carole Thomas [November 16, 2013 - 5:15 pm]: Chopper Cam = WeScam
Rollo [November 16, 2013 - 5:15 pm]: Turd Sandwich or a giant Douche...take your pick
JohnnyClues [November 16, 2013 - 5:16 pm]: @Rollo: south park lol
Rollo [November 16, 2013 - 5:16 pm]: you bet
ArmunnRigh [November 16, 2013 - 5:16 pm]: is the chat down?
columjaddica [November 16, 2013 - 5:17 pm]: test
Jan Erik Hansen [November 16, 2013 - 5:17 pm]: No refrech the page !
Jan Erik Hansen [November 16, 2013 - 5:18 pm]: I go for BOTH ROLLO !!!! :-D
Rollo [November 16, 2013 - 5:18 pm]: Chat working all good here..
Rollo [November 16, 2013 - 5:18 pm]: funny Jan...good man
ArmunnRigh [November 16, 2013 - 5:19 pm]: back
ArmunnRigh [November 16, 2013 - 5:19 pm]: whoa
ArmunnRigh [November 16, 2013 - 5:19 pm]: that was a nose out glitch
ArmunnRigh [November 16, 2013 - 5:19 pm]: chat broke up here
Jan Erik Hansen [November 16, 2013 - 5:19 pm]: <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5SQxEMok6zQ" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5SQxEMok6zQ</a>
columjaddica [November 16, 2013 - 5:19 pm]: I think they use compositing on a lot of the new psyops, whatever tool is best for the job. At places like the Bostom Marathon finish line they had whole trailers (if you can trust the still pictures) loaded with Grass Valley Cayenne live video editing and compositing equipment. But the idea of compositing on a helicopter in 2001?
columjaddica [November 16, 2013 - 5:23 pm]: And the newsmedia today have much more complete software for synchronizing the release of mediawith layerd permissions, and all sorts of organizational tools that they didn't have in 2001. I don't understand how they screw up so many psyops today unless it's intentional or the adoption of standards like NewML-G2 is not as widespread as I think
ArmunnRigh [November 16, 2013 - 5:23 pm]: test 123
columjaddica [November 16, 2013 - 5:26 pm]: Sorry, meant NewsML-G2 <a href="http://www.iptc.org/std/NewsML-G2/2.12/documentation/IPTC-G2-Implementation_Guide_5.0.pdf" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">http://www.iptc.org/std/NewsML-G2/2.12/documentation/IPTC-G2-Implementation_Guide_5.0.pdf</a>     I think this standard is interesting, the recent version merged EventsML into the NewsML standard when previously planned events were a separate standard. It shows how they distribute and revoke or modify news stories in a top down fashion.
Rollo [November 16, 2013 - 5:26 pm]: wow
Rollo [November 16, 2013 - 5:27 pm]: I missed that.....my bad
ArmunnRigh [November 16, 2013 - 5:27 pm]: thanks colum, saved it
columjaddica [November 16, 2013 - 5:29 pm]: I'm currently studying it (slowly). There are public implimentations of NewsML-G2 but it's kinda worthless without a certain kind of Reuters subscription. Understanding it helps explain some of the things you see in news URLs, filenames, image metadata, etc.
Carole Thomas [November 16, 2013 - 5:29 pm]: Etymology of “Ace” -
Because this was the lowest roll at dice, ace was used metaphorically in Middle English for "bad luck" or "something of no value:)
ArmunnRigh [November 16, 2013 - 5:29 pm]: interesting
Carole Thomas [November 16, 2013 - 5:30 pm]: but as the ace is often the highest playing card, the extended senses based on "excellence, good quality" arose 18c. as card-playing became popular. Ace in the hole in the figurative sense of "concealed advantage" is attested from 1904, from crooked stud poker deals.
Banazir Galbasi [November 16, 2013 - 5:30 pm]: I saying that earlier about panning across the empty sky.
Carole Thomas [November 16, 2013 - 5:30 pm]: Concealed advantage LOL
ArmunnRigh [November 16, 2013 - 5:30 pm]: And those planes did create a masonic boom in the area that day
Carole Thomas [November 16, 2013 - 5:31 pm]: Meaning "outstanding pilot" dates from 1917 (technically, in World War I aviators' jargon, one who has brought down 10 enemy planes,
Jan Erik Hansen [November 16, 2013 - 5:31 pm]: The ACE TURD STINKS !!!
Banazir Galbasi [November 16, 2013 - 5:31 pm]: Perhaps if George Lucas was directing.
ArmunnRigh [November 16, 2013 - 5:31 pm]: Hey Jan, my girlfriend is an Ace Baker - her cakes are marvellous!
columjaddica [November 16, 2013 - 5:32 pm]: NewsML-2 is kind of agnostic on how you use it, so don't expect any smoking guns from reading the technical standard. But it does shed some light onto how news is distributed and controlled
Banazir Galbasi [November 16, 2013 - 5:33 pm]: So why chance any footage being wrong wIth live on the day shots?
Rollo [November 16, 2013 - 5:35 pm]: Is this the Square peg in the Round hole
Carole Thomas [November 16, 2013 - 5:38 pm]: Go Rollo, go!
ArmunnRigh [November 16, 2013 - 5:38 pm]: Don't cry, Rollo :-)
ArmunnRigh [November 16, 2013 - 5:41 pm]: «oh my god! oh my god!»
ArmunnRigh [November 16, 2013 - 5:51 pm]: there aren't only official courts, guys
ArmunnRigh [November 16, 2013 - 5:52 pm]: ask some guys in the middle ages ;)
Carole Thomas [November 16, 2013 - 5:56 pm]: ab, you are a great facilatator
ab [November 16, 2013 - 5:58 pm]: @Carole Thomas: thanks
farcevalue [November 16, 2013 - 5:58 pm]: My mother just called and asked me if I remembered the Kennedy coverage which I don't.  She said I didn't want to watch the Macy's Day parade back then (I was 3) because I was tired of all the footage of funerals and motorcades and such.   Probably on TV 24/7.
Carole Thomas [November 16, 2013 - 5:59 pm]: Teller Speaks! - YouTube
farcevalue [November 16, 2013 - 6:00 pm]: Social Service rocks!
Carole Thomas [November 16, 2013 - 6:00 pm]: Teller explains the art of distraction <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J5x14AwElOk" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J5x14AwElOk</a>
Carole Thomas [November 16, 2013 - 6:04 pm]: “There is nothing more deceptive than an obvious fact.” 
― Arthur Conan Doyle,
ArmunnRigh [November 16, 2013 - 6:06 pm]: LOL
Carole Thomas [November 16, 2013 - 6:07 pm]: Shakespeare nailed shills:“And thus I clothe my naked villainy
With odd old ends stol'n out of holy writ;
And seem a saint, when most I play the devil.”
or e bil [November 16, 2013 - 6:08 pm]: Alternate ending  "The Matrix" -- "Hi. It's me. I know you're out there. I can feel you now. I imagine you can also feel me. You won't have to search for me anymore. I'm done running. Done hiding. Whether I'm done fighting, I suppose, is up to you. I believe deep down, we both want this world to change. I believe that the Matrix can remain our cage or it can become our chrysalis, that's w
or e bil [November 16, 2013 - 6:08 pm]: hat you helped me to understand. That to be truly free, truly free, you cannot change your cage. You have to change yourself. When I used to look out at this world, all I could see was its edges, its boundaries, its leaders and laws. But now, I see another world. A different world where all things are possible. A world of hope. Of peace. I can't tell you how to get there, but I know if you can fr
or e bil [November 16, 2013 - 6:09 pm]: ee your mind, you'll find the way.".
Carole Thomas [November 16, 2013 - 6:15 pm]: Great point,Armunn!
Carole Thomas [November 16, 2013 - 6:16 pm]: Age of Aquarius:)
Videre Licet [November 16, 2013 - 6:17 pm]: @ArmunnRigh: Ah...  Was I a part of your epiphany?:favorite:
ArmunnRigh [November 16, 2013 - 6:18 pm]: ah yes
Videre Licet [November 16, 2013 - 6:21 pm]: Right!  That is the distraction.  The Psyops!
Carole Thomas [November 16, 2013 - 6:21 pm]: We are in the apocalypse (ie the unveiling:))
Videre Licet [November 16, 2013 - 6:22 pm]: Maybe they know they are losing the attention of the masses.
columjaddica [November 16, 2013 - 6:23 pm]: I think that you can get a good look at the reason for the fakery now. I see it in Rockefeller foundation 100 Years 100 Cities challenge. They are trying to show that everything is so dangerous in order to justify changes to society to make us more "resilient". You see it in the psychological studies of trauma relating to 9/11 and it just continues from there.
Videre Licet [November 16, 2013 - 6:23 pm]: Right Rollo
columjaddica [November 16, 2013 - 6:23 pm]: It's about using trauma. They give us all of these resilient role models that turn around the next day after their kid died and pull a legislative gun control proposal out of their purse with a smile on the face
Carole Thomas [November 16, 2013 - 6:23 pm]: They are operating from the r-complex
Videre Licet [November 16, 2013 - 6:24 pm]: Are you redirecting?...
Carole Thomas [November 16, 2013 - 6:25 pm]: They are not smart - repetitive patterns, stupid number games, duper's delight
columjaddica [November 16, 2013 - 6:26 pm]: Look at the research of Roxane Cohen Silver and her relationship with DHS to see some of the reason for these events.
Videre Licet [November 16, 2013 - 6:28 pm]: (((((GROUP HUG)))))
Carole Thomas [November 16, 2013 - 6:28 pm]: great show, ab
Videre Licet [November 16, 2013 - 6:29 pm]: fLOWER pOwER!!
ab [November 16, 2013 - 6:31 pm]: sorry I had to end it (early) ... what a great line up
ab [November 16, 2013 - 6:31 pm]: Power panel
Carole Thomas [November 16, 2013 - 6:32 pm]: Thank you for the show:)
ArmunnRigh [November 16, 2013 - 6:33 pm]: @Rollo: This is you :D <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BvTNyKIGXiI" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BvTNyKIGXiI</a>
Banazir Galbasi [November 16, 2013 - 6:34 pm]: Fantastic show Ab. Gets better every time. . Thanks Simon for everything. Cheers Rollo!
Jan Erik Hansen [November 16, 2013 - 6:35 pm]: :)
Banazir Galbasi [November 16, 2013 - 6:35 pm]: Tom, Armunn, well done.
Carole Thomas [November 16, 2013 - 6:38 pm]: Dr Seuss:to Rollo
“Be who you are and say what you feel because those who mind don't matter and those who matter don't mind.
Videre Licet [November 16, 2013 - 6:40 pm]: @ArmunnRigh: Hahaha I love it!
ArmunnRigh [November 16, 2013 - 6:40 pm]: :D
Videre Licet [November 16, 2013 - 6:41 pm]: @Carole Thomas: Such good advice for Rollo.
Videre Licet [November 16, 2013 - 6:41 pm]: We adore his sensitive soul!
columjaddica [November 16, 2013 - 7:05 pm]: Armun, if you get a chance to browse that NewsML-G2 guide, the intro is interesting but also chapter 15 on the new "Planning Item", scheduled time of delivery, etc. There's some functionality there that would be really useful for faking news and keeping it compartmentalized in the proper ways until the proper times
columjaddica [November 16, 2013 - 7:07 pm]: It's not damning on it's own. You might want a planning item for scheduled sports games, etc. But I think knowing how it works and how news is distributed is useful to people doing research
ArmunnRigh [November 16, 2013 - 7:11 pm]: I will check it in the next few days for sure
Rollo [November 16, 2013 - 7:19 pm]: that went well....Abs probably exausted
Rollo [November 16, 2013 - 7:21 pm]: I am who I Am and say what I feel because those who mind don't matter and those who matter don't mind.
Rollo [November 16, 2013 - 7:22 pm]: that wasnt me that was the Dr
Rollo [November 16, 2013 - 7:35 pm]: WWF Raw?
ArmunnRigh [November 16, 2013 - 7:36 pm]: @Rollo: I think ab should invite this guy for a call, see what he has to say <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D05WZjt8ra0" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D05WZjt8ra0</a>
Rollo [November 16, 2013 - 7:49 pm]: @arm ....none taken :)
ArmunnRigh [November 16, 2013 - 7:49 pm]: :D
Rollo [November 16, 2013 - 7:52 pm]: Karaoke time......Lets all sing along <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jQYQTFudrqc" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jQYQTFudrqc</a>
ArmunnRigh [November 16, 2013 - 7:52 pm]: Nena über alles
ArmunnRigh [November 16, 2013 - 7:58 pm]: @Rollo: We looked good on stage for this performance, mate <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jj7pDNDuoJ0" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jj7pDNDuoJ0</a>
columjaddica [November 16, 2013 - 7:59 pm]: BBC used to have a site with the "Donald Rumsfeld quote of the week". It was pretty golden, might still be on wayback machine (they were .rm files)
columjaddica [November 16, 2013 - 8:01 pm]: Why did the news seem so much more fun during the Rumsfeld and Baghdad Bob era? The characters we get today, the talking heads, have no sense of humor like they did during the Bush era
columjaddica [November 16, 2013 - 8:05 pm]: Or maybe I've just lost my sense of humor when it comes to "the news"
ArmunnRigh [November 16, 2013 - 8:06 pm]: the noose
LusitAna [November 16, 2013 - 8:07 pm]: I like the 'unkown unknowns' one but I think we all know that one :)
columjaddica [November 16, 2013 - 8:07 pm]: Yeah, this old BBC page had a lot of ones, some that aren't well known today
columjaddica [November 16, 2013 - 8:07 pm]: It's in the memory hole though, or maybe on wayback
LusitAna [November 16, 2013 - 8:08 pm]: there are a few on yt
columjaddica [November 16, 2013 - 8:09 pm]: Baghdad Bob: "We have them surrounded in their tanks"
columjaddica [November 16, 2013 - 8:09 pm]: Bob: Britain "is not worth an old shoe." (hmm, shoes and Iraq)
columjaddica [November 16, 2013 - 8:12 pm]: Baghdad Bob was worth a good time for Americans but he didn't make the deck of cards and was able to assume as normal a life as possible after Baghdad fell.
columjaddica [November 16, 2013 - 8:13 pm]: or so they say