20 thoughts on “Atwill’s CAESAR’S MESSIAH: The Roman Conspiracy to Invent Jesus

  1. dave j

    for the next show

    Theory
    Caesar’s Messiah by Joseph Atwill.

    argues that
    1) Jesus of Nazareth was an invention of the Roman Empire, by Josephus writing the entire NT after AD 70.
    2) Parallels between the New Testament and Josephus’ Jewish War.

    Why?

    1) Romans invented Jesus to pacify the Jewish people by manufacture of a suffering messiah, not a conquering one.

    Response Leading to the One and only Question Joe will answer.

    I will leave on the table 2 facts, One the 7 or Hoax code and the Idea that there was a Revolt (war) is a HOAX

    With the caveat this proves the HOAX and thus the No-since At-will peddles

    SO then “josephus wrote in the “jewish war” the following,”Now, there was about this time Jesus, a wise man, if it be lawful to call him a man, for he was a doer of wonderful works-a teacher of such men as receive the truth with pleasure. He drew over to him both many of the Jews, and many of the Gentiles.”

    What feeling do you take from that?

    Was there any sign in the so called roman empire of what was called Christians?

    “Roman historian” Tacitus places Christian under Emperor Nero in AD 64

    “Consequently, to get rid of the report, Nero fastened the guilt and inflicted the most exquisite tortures on a class hated for their abominations, called Christians by the populace. Christus, from whom the name had its origin, suffered the extreme penalty during the reign of Tiberius at the hands of one of our procurators, Pontius Pilatus, and a most mischievous superstition, thus checked for the moment, again broke out not only in Judea, the first source of the evil, but even in Rome… Mockery of every sort was added to their deaths. Covered with the skins of beasts, they were torn by dogs and perished, or were nailed to crosses, or were doomed to the flames and burnt, to serve as a nightly illumination when daylight had expired”

    Cornelius Tacitus Annals 15:44
    https://tinyurl.com/2punbkyf

    In AD 110, the Roman governor Pliny writes to the Roman Emperor Trajan

    “THE METHOD YOU have pursued, my dear Pliny, in sifting the cases of those denounced to you as Christians is extremely proper. It is not possible to lay down any general rule which can be applied as the fixed standard in all cases of this nature. No search should be made for these people; when they are denounced and found guilty they must be punished; with the restriction, however, that when the party denies himself to be a Christian, and shall give proof that he is not (that is, by adoring our gods) he shall be pardoned on the ground of repentance, even though he may have formerly incurred suspicion. Informations without the accuser’s name subscribed must not be admitted in evidence against anyone, as it is introducing a very dangerous precedent, and by no means agreeable to the spirit of the age”

    BOOK TEN LETTER 97 TRAJAN TO PLINY
    https://www.vroma.org/vromans/hwalker/Pliny/Pliny10-097-E.html

    Trajan was trying to stop Christianity—not support it.

    Now then

    Who by the words of the NEW TESTAMENT is Jesus Christ said to BE or represent here on Earth?

    Jesus has “all authority on heaven and Earth” (Mt. 28:18) (what about Caesar ????)

    book of Acts, the disciples twice disobey “government” (Caesar) in order to obey Christ (Acts 4:19; 5:29)
     a) Now start back at verse 13 (CrownCorona), WHO are they talking to, (government(idea of))

    “Now when they saw the boldness of Peter and John, and perceived that they were uneducated, common men, they were astonished. And they recognized that they had been with Jesus. But seeing the man who was healed standing beside them, they had nothing to say in opposition. But when they had commanded them to leave the council, they conferred with one another, saying, h“What shall we do with these men? For that a notable sign has been performed through them is evident to all the inhabitants of Jerusalem, and we cannot deny it. 17 But in order that it may spread no further among the people, let us warn them jt speak no more to anyone in this” name.” So they called them and charged them not to speak or teach at all in the name of Jesus.

    What was the response,

    Acts 4:19–20
    “But Peter and John answered them, “Whether it is right in the sight of God to listen to you rather than to God, you must judge, for we cannot but speak of what we have seen and heard.”

    (Not Government or Caesar)

    How about this

    Now then again acts 5 27-32

    And when they had brought them, they set them before the council. And the high priest questioned them, saying, “We strictly charged you not to teach in this name, yet here you have filled Jerusalem with your teaching, and you intend to bring this man’s blood upon us.” But Peter and the apostles answered, “We must obey God rather than men. The God of our fathers raised Jesus, whom you killed by hanging him on a tree. God exalted him at his right hand as Leader and Savior, to give prepentance to Israel and forgiveness of sins. And we are witnesses to these things, and so is the Holy Spirit, whom God has given to those who obey him.”

    Caesar was “King” Caesar was “law” Caesar was “word” is that not the story…..so who then do they talk about that is Bigger than Caesar?

    SO then I will not even go into the multiple books that the different styles and complexity of the entire volume and those left out. That alone is to much for this simple mans theory to withstand. that those that KNEW Jesus the Christ still lived when this so called “hoax ” roman invention started. That alone should give you pause Jerusalem was a Metropolitan City not some small town Burg. The same bible says that People came from all over to that city, All colors of the rainbow.

    Now then the Question,

    Why did Rome Invent a “God” that was More powerful than their own “Self Proclaimed God line” in the form of a “Man called Caesar”, This Created “God” to pacify the “jews” by Noting that in the end by Scripture was to return, not only to Rule this World again, but Destroy all that stood before? “Caesar” not withstanding and Rome but Dust in the wind with all the rest.

    Be mindful of what you cast unto other Ab and do the work needed to Properly Vent this. I could go on more however this is well past sufficient to still the Atwill.

  2. napoleonnapoleon

    The Freemason Invention of the Nazi PartyBy Joseph Atwill –
    April 21, 2023

    https://postflaviana.org/the-freemason-invention-of-the-nazi-party/
    A fact that has been largely unrecognized is that the infamous Nazi Party seems to have been a longstanding project of Freemasonry. This secretive organization was able to achieve this without being recognized by using a proxy, Helena Blavatsky, and the pseudo – mystical organization she invented, the Theosophical Society. 

    While may strike the reader as farfetched, it is the case that virtually every aspect of what became the Nazi party originated from a member of the Theosophical Society. Whereas one or two aspects could certainly be circumstantial, the number of disparate elements that owe their origin to members of the Theosophical Society is unlikely an accident. It appears that the Theosophical Society was used as a mystical camouflage under which the Nazis symbols, racial and economic perspectives, the Nazi party itself and finally its leader, Adolf Hitler, were created.
    It is perhaps surprising that all of the facts asserted in this article are well known. The only original aspect of this analysis to to present them as a group, which to my knowledge has never been done before, and to note the obvious fact that when seen as a collection, it does not seem to be something that could have occurred by chance. 
    One obvious question that needs to be answered is why hasn’t the obvious connection between the elements that created Nazism become part of the historical understanding?
    Blavatsky Was a Freemason

    1. napoleonnapoleon

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  3. Gerry Kowaltz Cummin-Downe

    These words have the power to lift any man out of his fearful conspiracy theories, if he’s humble and willing to hear and receive:

    2 Peter 2:1-3 (NKJV)
    1 But there were also false prophets among the people, even as there will be false teachers among you, who will secretly bring in destructive heresies, even denying the Lord who bought them, and bring on themselves swift destruction.
    2 And many will follow their destructive ways, because of whom the way of truth will be blasphemed.
    3 By covetousness they will exploit you with deceptive words; for a long time their judgment has not been idle, and their destruction does not slumber.

    Ecclesiasticus 3:21-26 (1611 King James Bible apocrypha)
    21 Seek not out things that are too hard for thee, neither search the things that are above thy strength.
    22 But what is commanded thee, think thereupon with reverence, for it is not needful for thee to see with thine eyes the things that are in secret.
    23 Be not curious in unnecessary matters: for more things are shewed unto thee than men understand.
    24 For many are deceived by their own vain opinion; and an evil suspicion hath overthrown their judgment.
    25 Without eyes thou shalt want light: profess not the knowledge therefore that thou hast not.
    26 A stubborn heart shall fare evil at the last; and he that loveth danger shall perish therein. 

    Wisdom of Solomon 9:13-18 (1611 King James Bible apocrypha)
    13 For what man is he that can know the counsel of God? or who can think what the will of the Lord is?
    14 For the thoughts of mortal men are miserable, and our devices are but uncertain.
    15 For the corruptible body presseth down the soul, and the earthy tabernacle weigheth down the mind that museth upon many things.
    16 And hardly do we guess aright at things that are upon earth, and with labour do we find the things that are before us: but the things that are in heaven who hath searched out?
    17 And thy counsel who hath known, except thou give wisdom, and send thy Holy Spirit from above?
    18 For so the ways of them which lived on the earth were reformed, and men were taught the things that are pleasing unto thee, and were saved through wisdom. 

    John 3:8-12 (NKJV)
    8 “The wind blows where it wishes, and you hear the sound of it, but cannot tell where it comes from and where it goes. So is everyone who is born of the Spirit.”
    9 Nicodemus answered and said to Him, “How can these things be?”
    10 Jesus answered and said to him, “Are you the teacher of Israel, and do not know these things?”
    11 “Most assuredly, I say to you, We speak what We know and testify what We have seen, and you do not receive Our witness.”
    12 “If I have told you earthly things and you do not believe, how will you believe if I tell you heavenly things?”

    1. grandillusiongrandillusion

      When I come to Fakeologist and learn about how almost everything is a lie, I’m not fearful and therefore need to read Holy Bible versus. If anything I’m more relaxed realizing that life is good and it’s only my perception of being afraid that can be manipulated by the dark occultist and demons.

      So coming here, realizing the lies, you can withdrawal your CONsent to these entities and realize your perception had been altered, life isn’t scary or bad unless you’re an asleep zombie handing over your mind and body (vessel) to evil.

  4. Gerry Kowaltz Cummin-Downe

    Isaiah 8:11-13 (NKJV)
    11 For the Lord spoke thus to me with a strong hand, and instructed me that I should not walk in the way of this people, saying:
    12 “Do not say, ‘A conspiracy,’
    Concerning all that this people call a conspiracy,
    Nor be afraid of their threats, nor be troubled.
    13 The Lord of hosts, Him you shall hallow;
    Let Him be your fear,
    And let Him be your dread.

    1 Samuel 10:21-27 (NKJV)
    21 When he had caused the tribe of Benjamin to come near by their families, the family of Matri was chosen. And Saul the son of Kish was chosen. But when they sought him, he could not be found.
    22 Therefore they inquired of the Lord further, “Has the man come here yet?”
    And the Lord answered, “There he is, hidden among the equipment.”
    23 So they ran and brought him from there; and when he stood among the people, he was taller than any of the people from his shoulders upward.
    24 And Samuel said to all the people, “Do you see him whom the Lord has chosen, that there is no one like him among all the people?”
    So all the people shouted and said, “Long live the king!”
    25 Then Samuel explained to the people the behavior of royalty, and wrote it in a book and laid it up before the Lord. And Samuel sent all the people away, every man to his house.
    26 And Saul also went home to Gibeah; and valiant men went with him, whose hearts God had touched.
    27 But some rebels said, “How can this man save us?” So they despised him, and brought him no presents. But he held his peace.

  5. davej

    take it as a sign of reprieve.

    do better

    war is a HOAX even the One that Lights your Atwill Crush in “7”0 “AD” 14 77 5 Senses SINses.

    Put your S/word away “peter” and behave.

    always the lowest “CONman” denominator.

  6. govtisajokegovtisajoke

    Jesus is a deflection/distraction from what Christ is/represents. If one understands what Christ is and understands Jesus is a personified version of the true meaning of Christ, much truth can be gleaned from scripture.
    Christ represents light, phosphorus, thought, consciousness. Without phosphorus there is no thought. Phosphorus=light=Lucifer=Jesus. Deceivers want us to believe “Christians” were worshipping a man or the sun.

    1. govtisajokegovtisajoke

      Great Documentary. Gospel means “military victory”. A Jewish banker family, the Alexanders funded the printing/circulation of the gospels. Flavian war tactics used to back date the scriptures and give the illusion the Jews were defeated by Rome.

    2. davej

      If you deny Christ came in the flesh you are just another in a long line of animated Corpses. No more no less than in the end simply Dissipation…”GIANTS” made no more.

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