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May 15, 2018 at 8:32 am #854147
misom
ParticipantDear Seneca and All
Topics
- Mission Statement: As agreed in last discussion: Seneca is going to write one based on the existing and his own post.
- Clearing the psyop list: taking out the events that do not constitute psyops. E.g. Birth of Adolf Hitler, publication of National Geografic and many more.
- To add the characteristics of the psyop narrative to the list (proposal by Seneca). Maybe better: to integrate this information in the page of the psyop? We would have more space there to write also a little text about it instead of only the term? (proposal by Faye)
- Template for psyops pages created by Faye (is on the psyop list at the top). The aim of that template would be to make the work easier for newcomers and to have some standard fakeological chapters in the pages, e.g. -Fictims names list
-Hoax management (subchapters to be discussed)
-Conspiracy narrative genre
… - Zal rule: Zal rule is part of the Hoax management of psyops and should be called like that. And it is not a rule, it is an operational element in order to uphold, reinforce, embedd, etc. the psyop narrative. My proposition: to integrate it in the pages of psyops, under the chapter “hoax management” – subchapter: Entertainment: Literature, Movie, Music.
- To ask Fakeologist if we can have a Forum Category on the website for discussions about topics.
15.5.2018/Notes by Faye
Date proposals: Thursday, 17.05.18 – 21:00 Brussels Standard Time
Friday, 18.05.18 – same time
Saturday, 19.05.18 – same time-
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May 16, 2018 at 2:19 pm #854165Anonymous
InactiveHello Faye
Thank you for the list. From the proposed dates, only Friday, 18.05.18 works for me. For the others: 21:00 Brussels Standard Time is 19:00 GMT/GMT
Some remarks:
1) will probably not be finished by then but that’s ok
2) instead of just deleting those events I would propose to move them to another page (cut and paste). So that we can use them again in another list. If nothing else we could use them to look for dates that are meaningful for the hoaxers, for example birthday of Hitler
3) I think one proposal doesn’t have to exclude the other. The main advantage of having it on the main page is that people new to fakeology looking at the list will immediately see that the list is not made by people believing in one big conspiracy theory blaming only 1 group of people (or aliens).
5) To be clear: my concern is about the wording used in the rule. Zal found also that he was misquoted.Goodnight
May 16, 2018 at 4:35 pm #854167misom
ParticipantHi Seneca,
Thanks for your thoughts and cool that you can on friday.1. No problem, we discuss it when you are ready, unless there is something that you think must immediately be done on the frontpage „declaration“.
I hope also that we may get more input by other fakeologists which you can maybe use for your text.
2. Yes, why not… could be something in form of “other meaningful hoaxery dates”…
3. Sure, the problem is only that the main list does not have enough space for all the important info. In my opinion the list is already to loaded with links and references.
I would prefer a list with only the basic data and a page for each event with extended basic info + the space for individual research.
4. I can live well with the form it has been implemented as yet.. but if we want to improve it, we should discuss more than cosmetics 🙂
The information about movies, books, tv series etc. is a main content of the psyop planning – with no exception. Of course, the honour of recognizing the connection between movies and hoaxes goes to Zal and it should be attributed to him. But it is not the only connection between hoaxes and entertainment products or even other products (clothing, decoration stuff, etc.). The “Zal rule” is for the psyop analysis one of many sets of connections of the hoax management.
Date fixed:
Friday, 2018-05-18
Brussels 21:00
GMT 19:00-
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May 19, 2018 at 6:54 am #854222misom
ParticipantThe discussion of Friday, 18.05.18 can be listened to here:
http://fakeologist.com/blog/2018/05/19/fac467-fayedavej/
Seneca, DaveJ and Faye talked only about the topic of creating sublists to the main list of psyops.
Here is now the link to the separated lists as a basis for further discussion:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1wxMr_spQNkTO2YCPCUghVleBFzRS_frv8cUqqv3Vtdw/edit?usp=sharing
Next discussion is Sunday, 20.05.2018 – 21:00 Brussels Standard Time / 19:00 GMT
May 21, 2018 at 5:47 pm #854247gaia
ParticipantThis is some sick May 20th joke I presume?
You do not have permission to edit this page, for the following reason:
Your username or IP address has been blocked.
The block was made by Faye. The reason given is no reason given.
Start of block: 23:05, May 20, 2018
Expiration of block: infinite
Intended blockee: Gaia
You can contact Faye or another administrator to discuss the block. You cannot use the “email this user” feature unless a valid email address is specified in your account preferences and you have not been blocked from using it.Or is this the New Wave of Fayescism at Fayekopedia??
"A truth seeker is someone who dares to wade through thick series of toxic smoke screens and tries not to inhale" - Gaia (2017)
"What do you call 'genius'?" "Well, seeing things others don't see. Or rather the invisible links between things." - Vladimir Nabokov (1938)
May 24, 2018 at 1:48 pm #854271misom
ParticipantThe latest discussion can be listened to here:
http://fakeologist.com/blog/2018/05/21/fac468-faye-seneca/
State of things:
1 Mission Statement: Not yet discussed, Seneca works on the text
2 List of PsyOps: We discussed the draft_V1 (link above) and decided to go on with:
-Main list
-Sublist: Nuke Hoax
-Sublist: Plane crashes
-Sublist: Space fakery
-NEW: Sublist: DCP
-NEW: Sublist: Technology
-NEW: Sublist: Various
Seneca is reviewing the entries and preparing draft_V2.
3 To add a column to the list of psyops (Seneca) – Open
4 Zal rule – Open
5 Template for psyop pages: Standard chapters, etc. – Open
Proposal for the next discussion:
Thursday, 31.05.18 – 2100 Brussels Time / 1900 GMT
Friday, 01.06.18 – 2100 Brussels Time / 1900 GMT
Saturday, 02.06.18 – 2100 Brussels Time / 1900 GMT24.05.2018/Faye
June 2, 2018 at 6:01 am #854375misom
ParticipantThe latest discussion of June 1. 2018 can be listened to here:
http://fakeologist.com/blog/2018/06/02/fac470-faye-phil-blanks/
State of things:
1. Mission Statement: Open (Seneca works on it)
2. Lists of psyOp
- Main list – ongoing
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Sublist: Nuke Hoax – ongoing
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Sublist: Plane crashes – ongoing
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Sublist: Space fakery – ongoing
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Sublist: DCP – created, ongoing
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NEW: Sublist: Technology – to be created
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NEW: Sublist: Various – to be created
3. Restructuring of columns in the main list of psyops – Open
4. Zal rule – Open
5. Template for psyop pages – created, ongoing
Next Fakeopedia discussion:
Friday, 8. June 2018, 21:00 Cairo Standard Time
June 3, 2018 at 10:41 am #854381Anonymous
InactiveHello Faye
Sorry I didn’t reply earlier. I am fine but I have had a lot on my mind. Thanks for the patience. Trying to talk on Discord gives me a lot of stress. As you noticed it is hard for me to isolate myself from my family both physically and acoustically. But that is not the only thing. I find it easier to express myself in writing and the fact that it is recorded and streamed on the internet doesn’t help. So I want to ask if we could do future discussions in writing.
June 3, 2018 at 1:29 pm #854382misom
ParticipantDear Seneca, thanks for your answer, glad that you are fine :).
Well, of course it is possible to do every discussion here on the forum but this form does not allow real discussion and common research on terms, contents, etc.
I understand though the difficulties you mentioned. So, let’s try it in written form and maybe we can later switch again to audio for longer discussions or such.
For your info:
I created already the sublists we had decided in our last discussion. So when you are finished with your review and update, please try to integrate the data directly into the lists.
If it is too much work and you need to share it, contact me here or on discord or search another person that would like to help.
Best greetings
FayeJune 28, 2018 at 10:23 am #854606misom
ParticipantDear Seneca
Actually I can not know what it means that you have not written for a while. In my understanding you were working on the “Mission Statement” and the Lists.I do not want to stress you or such, just have to manage my time and am therefore continuing the work.
There are some new pages and also the categorization of psyops and events in reference to the grande narrative to which they belong, discussion needed
http://fakeologist.com/fakeopedia/index.php/Category:Grande_narratives
Hope to hear from you
F.July 2, 2018 at 10:26 am #854633Anonymous
InactiveHello Faye
I am fine. It is just that I am very busy with other things. And since I was the only one who was asking for a mission statement, I haven’t bothered to write it yet.
I have started a discussion on the page with a few comments, hope that it is helpful.
July 2, 2018 at 2:12 pm #854635misom
ParticipantDear Seneca
I answered you on the faekopedia, here is the link.
http://fakeologist.com/fakeopedia/index.php/Category_talk:Grande_narrativesKind regards
June 6, 2024 at 2:38 am #2023054Anonymous
InactiveI dont like the implications of aSHIFT being the philospohy of the whole site and then having an account on the other forum named aSHIFT discussing and policing members contribution and adherence to it.
I am conflicted bout it’s intentions. or in other words I dont like it at all. It has come off as a secret group. there is no clarification that its not a group of current members that requires admittance to. it has a money and work system. its own dictionary. it has expectations of adherence.
From my experience here it is my opinion its a bi product of Ab’s leinency for free speech and not moderating. I also think that the forum is something that Ab is personally not interested in but feels it is an important part of the system of discussing these type of topics.I think Ab has good intentions and lack of moderating is not a bad thing
i think that there needs to be clarification if it is a group that you get accepted or denied to then I think that the aSHIFT personal account should be removed and that member have a name that is not the name as the movememt.
if this was bible study and an account was named Jesus it would be very clear what it is. Otherwise it is just Gaia making up words and terms and stealing peoples music and making mixtapes.”Twistertopofy is when a flat smurf tries to Trollafilafy our religion.” seriously.
i would like to request Gaia changes their name from Jesus or clarify that a fakeologist on the other forum is a secret club that is policed by GAia.
https://fakeologist.com/fakeopedia/index.php?title=Newspeech
“a language invented by gaia” holy cow. gtfowhat a total nut by the way. I have the worst feeling that the reason GAIS AND Napoleon ramble is they are the same pwrson with a spanish and english acent voice changer
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You must be logged in to view attached files.June 11, 2024 at 3:15 am #2023178lynnertell
ParticipantI don’t understand why you started spamming the forums with re-quotes of the exact same material you have previously characterized as “psychotic”?
Is that considered some form of “protest”?
Why re-post incoherent messages repeatedly?
It makes it look like someone else has hijacked your user name (NigelT).
Even worse, it aggravates a situation that you are supposed to be objecting to.How long have you been a member of the Forums?
I never even bothered to check ….Lynn Ertell
(wordpress sucks.)June 11, 2024 at 3:19 am #2023179lynnertell
ParticipantIt’s not a “Spanish accent”.
It was more like Dutch or German.
GAIA is transplanted from Europe to Colombia.
Apparently you didn’t know that?
How long have you been around here?
You’re not a long time participant, are you?A “voice changer”?
Are you serious?Lynn Ertell
(wordpress sucks.)June 14, 2024 at 4:10 am #2023262Anonymous
InactiveHi Lynn
I put up with about 8 weeks of shit from napoleon, GAIA, Dave J and Vespa.
Daily shit talking and trolling. And it went on unchecked. They operated with impunity. then cried when the same treatment was returned to them. Vespa just spoke about my wife for the second time so I decided that I might as well let him know that I am now hoping all of his children get cancer and die.
You showed up. Said you didn’t look and went straight to talking shit.
I hope you have a good day. People seem to like you around here. I hope it goes well for you, but I expect you to continue to act like 90% of the people I have met. Hopefully not. Take care.June 14, 2024 at 4:34 am #2023263Anonymous
Inactiveyou are just saigirl.
Welcome back Lynn
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