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    By link, I meant ” the enclosed article “ which didn’t seem to be enclosed.

    Thanks however, for putting me onto that absurd Ernest Till psy-op, which I’d never come across before.


    In a call with Brian S Staveley, Marcus Allen, in a rather confused [to the listener] exchange says he has a comment/call from a cousin of 9/11 “victim” Michael Berkeley.
    Yes, Berkeley [no relation to the other UK fictim, Graham Berkeley]

    Steve Warran was also curious about Mr Berkeley and his copying of the various tributes brought out several cousins, e.g. John O Utendahl [a successful New York investment banker] with whom Berkeley worked before allegedly setting up his own company on the 79th floor of WTC1….
    Other cousins were Ronald Culberson and Ellen Turner. All three names crop up in present day facebook friendships in the extended family.

    Michael Berkeley’s legacy page titled EVERYTHING WAS IN PLACE ** has several extra photos added and some very convincing looking tributes from old friends and colleagues who may or may not be in the loop, but whose existence checks out in real life.

    e.g. Karen diane johnson who allegedly worked with him at Utendahl 1996-8 period
    and now is MD of the debt exchange in Boston, Brian Staveley’s neck of the woods…
    Other out of the loop supporters on of Berkeley’s former life include
    David Steele

    who also attended Iona Prep School New Rochelle Westchester co, NY
    and the [now 83 year old] parents of Ronald Greco – who is found online as a donor to Providence College, attended by Berkeley prior to Columbia Business School.

    Michael Berkeley ’85 An athlete his first two years at Providence College, Michael Berkeley saw limited playing time as a guard for the Friars basketball team. In the ‘1982 and 1983 season, the 6’0, 185 lb. Berkeley from Iona Prep High School in New Rochelle, N.Y., had court time in eleven games for the Friars. However, after his graduation in 1985, Berkeley used his finance major to pursue business endeavors. He was well-regarded as a successful businessman, becoming the Senior Vice-President/ Partner of Utendahl Capital. He still managed to stay involved with PC, including attending an African American Society reunion sponsored by the Balfour Center several years ago, demonstrating his awareness of diversity issues at the College.

    Business 1987 Columbia 43 alumni “died” on 9/11, including M.B.

    His wife and elder son have lively Facebook pages, the younger son not, although appears in various family photos

    June 17

    Lourdes Perez-Berkeley Hope you know and feel how much your Dad loved you and continues to love you and watch over you!!! He will always have you in his arms!!! Happy Father’s Day in heaven, Mike B!! Always remembered and loved fondly. You are an awesome Dad!!! ???

    Cheryl Butler-Berkeley Simply beautiful…

    Cheryl is married to Michael’s brother Mark who is a retired US Naval commander, both residing for a number of years in Nova Scotia Canada.

    Here’s cousin Ellen Turner

    Woven among these facebook accounts are occasional 9/11 memorial tributes to Michael Berkeley,as well as a number of photos showing MB

    this would be Mark and brother Michael

    Mum Loures and the two sons, Eric left,

    Michael Berkeley and his two sons

    This tribute also seems to be from someone not in the loop
    Craig Osten Mark – was in NYC on Monday (and on 9/11/01) and could not help but think about, you, Michael, and you both taking care of me that first year I landed at Mt Tom. It was like having two big brothers looking out for me. Thanks and thinking about you.

    mountain view ny


    September 11, 2004
    I went to grade school with Michael (1970 – 76) I knew back then he was a special person. His classmates adored him. He was a excellent student. I found out only recently that he died…….[continues]
    ~ Denise Wilson, New Rochelle, New York

    September 11, 2011
    I remember your mother-in-law as my camp nurse at Mt. Tom and her family…I am so sorry for the loss and we will always keep that memory alive in our hearts and mind. I live in CT now but will never forget that I too am a New Yorker!
    God Bless!
    ~ Stacy Semack, Hamden, Connecticut

    September 11, 2011
    Wow….I always remember Mike as one of my Uncle Neil’s best friends. My mom and I have pictures of he and Neil visiting us in California, but I remember him being around a lot when I lived in New Rochelle. What a great person. May blessings continue to flow to his family.
    ~ Shekira Reynolds-Hite, Dinwiddie, Virginia
    Neil Reynolds doesn’t have a FB page, but Florence Reynolds in the same family fb grouping> is from New Rochelle NY, so this seems like a genuine post by someone out of the loop.

    and finally a bizarre adjustment of the “official 9/11 biography” on may 20 2002 [re october 2001] some 7 months after the event….


    A biographical sketch on Oct. 5 about Michael Berkeley, a brokerage company founder who died in the World Trade Center on Sept. 11, included erroneous references from family members to the occupation of his wife, Lourdes Perez-Berkeley, and to her background. She is an investment banker, not a top portfolio analyst. She is not a former Miss Puerto Rico.

    The family members also misstated the occupations of Mr. Berkeley’s parents and his ownership of a home. His late father was a retired police detective, not a homicide detective. His mother is a former director of nursing at a hospital, not a head nurse. He no longer owned a home in the Hamptons. His wife notified The Times about the errors on Friday.

    Quite, quite bizarre! Especially since the erroneous biography still stands at to this day!
    So, who’s in the loop here? Plenty of names to choose from.

    ** I bet it was!

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    These 9/11 anniversaries often throw up the odd reminiscence, some planted at the Legacy website, or on social media.
    One such “victim” was Suria Clarke whose mother [q.v] Alex was the Scotland born head of the September 11th United Kingdom Families Support Group
    and of the hastily built British Garden in New York
    said in 2006 “The garden will be an absolute godsend that we can all call ours, says Clarke, an avid gardener

    “Scotland is very much a part of the garden,” says Camilla Hellman **, president of the British Memorial Garden Trust…a Brit who lives in New York City and who lost a friend in the tragedy

    ** b 1954 She has never publicly named the “friend” she lost. The trust exists but seems to have no activity even though it is supposed to maintain the garden and support the families of UK and Commonwealth families affected by “terrorism and war”. Very strange. We are told in 2007 that the garden was Camilla’s brainchild

    qFar left -Camilla G. Hellman MBE, Director of Development,
    The American-Scottish Foundation, Inc,

    Source – Black Tie Magazine, 2012

    So who’s come out of the woodwork for Suria, even though her legacy page is moribund? This cowboy and former state senator for North Dakota

    Ryan Taylor @mycowboylogic
    My friend, Suria. A new friend made around a North Dakota campfire just weeks before 9/11, one who could leave an impression that you knew would last. The world dimmed with her loss. #neverforget Remembering September 11, 2001: Suria R.E. Clarke
    7:59 am – 11 Sep 2018 [PT]

    really? or this Mexican photographer and owner of a child education business from Brooklyn

    Raul Gutierrez @themexican
    On September 11, 2001 my friend Suria Clarke was a few months into a new job at Cantor Fitzgerald. Even though she lived in a terrible apartment next to the D train, she loved NY dearly reveling in its glory and imperfections.
    I miss her.
    4:27 am – 11 Sep 2018 [PT, 1.27 AM Eastern time]
    A mexican night worker? Or someone in Europe?
    He wrote about her in 2006 but again didn’t say how he knew her

    but it attracted this comment…
    alex mayor said…

    I knew Suria at sixth form college, we studied politics together, and hadn’t been in touch for at least 5 years… I didn’t even discover she had been caught up in the awful events of 9/11 until some time later. I write this on 9/11/06 as every year I seem to recall what a lovely charming inquisitive and darling person she was and how the tragedy of her death in such a manner is an endless wordless thing to confront.

    She was a luminous sort, with that subtle humour and liveliness that drew people to her. I quite agree with you that she would have had a more nuanced and wider perspective on these events had she not tragically been a victim of them.


    = born same school year [1971-2] studied at Teddington Comprehensive, but name of Sixth form college not provided.

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    I’ve posted on Harris Beach [which supplied 6 “deaths” for 9/11] on the Fishy Firms blog thread. A key “death” was that of Andrew Zucker who had one of those nice “acts of heroism” stories which the media loves.
    It was noted that his wife Erica remarried circa 2007 and one sister was Cheryl Shames. Another brother was Stuart Zucker who is VERY quiet on 9/11, unlike Cheryl.
    Introducing Cheryl

    September 12 2018 – still remembering, but tolerating the awful potato lens photo of her brother, totally unsuitable for a “hero”.

    The son would now be 16 as reported in 2011 by a niece Temima Neshama Shames
    on 2011-10-08 at the 9/11 heroes site

    Steve Zucker Co Owner at Easyjourney Entertainment
    Thank you for posting
    Andrew is my first cousin I never had the fortune of meeting.


    And another younger potato lens photo

    Curiously, the remarried widow Erica L.Zucker Heisler, [also Erica L. Konovitch previously] who is a friend of Cheryl, seems uninterested in remembering 9/11

    Here’s another post of Cheryl showing a contemporary clipping of Andrew Zucker

    I wonder why it was cropped?
    but – get this – the woman on the right, Prof Hedy P Forspan died December 13 2001 aged 49!
    Ms. Forspan passed away, unexpectedly, in 2001.

    Did she now!!

    Oh, and here’s Maria Celis, Cardozo colleague of Andrew Zucker, at Cardozo School of Law, Yeshiva University 1996-9

    Another Obituary

    83 years old, died peacefully at home on May 6, 2016. Beloved husband of Deena. Devoted father of Rachel and Joel Sheinfeld, Abram Heisler and Riva Silverman and Eliot and Erica Heisler ***. Cherished and fun-loving grandfather of Gabrielle, Nathan, Shoshana, Naomi, Jacob, Adina, Amanda, James, Jason and Chloe. Respected dentist for over 50 years. President of Congregation Ohab Zedek in Belle Harbor.

    The Dentist’s first wife Sharon Sokol Heisler died in 2004

    HEISLER–Sharon (Sokol), of Great Neck, NY, July 16, 2004. Loving wife of Eliot Heisler; mother of Amanda and James; daughter of Judith and Martin Sokol; sister of Deborah and Robert Hollander, Suzy and Joseph Sokol; aunt to Samantha, Brandon, Alex, Yasmine and Aaron. She will be missed forever.

    <hr />

    Feb 23 2015

    Within Our Family

    Mazal ?Tov to Erica Zucker Heisler & Eliot Heisler on the Bar Mitzvah of their son Jason [Andrew] b 2/14/0] . Mazal Tov to siblings, Amanda, James & Chloe , great-grandmother Margie Berger, grandparents Donald & Deena Heisler, Jonathan and Doris Konovitch, and Martin and Shoshana Sokol.

    Amanda looks the eldest – she at least must be from an earlier marriage of Eliot
    [PS yes, there are two step siblings on remarriage, Amanda and James]
    Since then Erica has remarried with Andrews family in attendance, and had a second child along with two stepchildren – she remains close with Andrews family and keeps her son Andrew close to his fathers family as well.

    Another relative, sister Gayle Zucker Mosenson
    Zucker’s nephew, Jeffrey Mosenson, 20 – who became a firefighter because of his uncle’s influence – died in a car accident

    fireman…..aged just 20
    So, where did Andrew go to, or Hedi Forspan for that matter? Israel?

    And please, ~I don’t want anyone telling me that Andrew Zucker is a synthetic individual who never existed.

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    The bigger the event, the more ongoing hoax management which is needed [ad infinitum, and as the number of hoaxes increases, the team of people who must be working on overall hoax management must also increase similarly. Perhaps we will reach a point when the majority of the working population is emgaged in hoax management and the creation of news from it]
    Example – Janice Brooks, an unlikely 9/11 “survivor” was back in the news one year ago, which I overlooked [see above paragraph] at the time, unsurprisingly.
    28 Nov 2017
    illustrated by this flickr picture

    September 11, 2001

    This gives a chance for Janice to air her 84th story again in the press
    A 9/11 terror attack survivor will give her first public talk in Bishop’s Stortford
    In the start of a new initiative, charity SINCE 9/11 has arranged for her to talk about her experience at Bishop’s Stortford High School.
    …to people many of whome weren’t born in 2001.
    Next week’s event will be the first time Janice has given the talk to a room of strangers.
    SINCE9 /11 was initially established to create a memorial in London, and continues to help educate young people in schools.
    Director Liam Duffy
    said Bishop’s Stortford High School made the first approach to the charity.

    The directors of the charity are diverse, the most significant one being Lord Fink,_Baron_Fink
    The website


    has a perferctly scripted rendition of Janice’s escape from the WTC

    The charity is hiring teachers to take the official 9/11 narrative out into the classrooms.

    Click to access ICM-%2331271768-v1-Education_director_Job_description.pdf

    Hurry hurry….closing date soon
    SINCE 9/11 Education Director
    Closing Date: 27 November 2018
    Accountable to: SINCE 9/11 Director and Trustees of SINCE 9/11
    Salary and Contract £37,500-45,000 based on 37 hours per week.
    Salary dependent on experience.
    Office Hoxton office but the post requires travel in
    the UK

    For reference -further background research on Brooks at
    here and



    Let’s have another look, two years down the line, at the Cunninghams, of whom Michael “Micky” Cunningham allegedly died in the WTC.
    previous post here

    It’s worth reprinting the meat of the reply of Micky’s schoolboy friend Bernie Briffa
    I attended both primary school and secondary schools with Michael,though he was a few years my senior. Michael was a lovely man as were his brothers.
    I first met Michael when we were both alter boys at St John Vianney church in the early 1970s.I remember he took me under his wing.We attended St Augustines Primary at the same time and then our paths crossed again when we both attended Campion School in Hornchurch. He was very well liked by his piers,though I didn’t care for his choice of football team and told him so once – much to his displeasure.

    The video had ample images and video of Mickey.

    Bernie Briffa @goonerbeau
    28 Dec 2017
    Replying to @Gooner_AK
    I was born in Balham,South London, I went to school in Hornchurch which is in Thurrock and grew up in Ilford. Where would you say,I was from Andy as a matter of interest?
    Michael Joseph Cunningham, age 39, of Princeton Jct., New Jersey, beloved husband of Teresa (Koebbe) Cunningham, and new father of William Laurence Cunningham entered enternal life on September 11, 2001, in New York.
    Mr. Cunningham was born December 24, 1961 in Forest Gate, London, England, son of Laurence Edward Cunningham b 1927,d. 2016 of London, and the late Mrs. Teresa (Anastasia) Cunningham. 1929-2000

    In addition to his wife, new born son and father, Michael is survived by three brothers and two sisters, Sean L. Cunningham b.1958 Paul E. Cunningham b. 1960, Andrew. Thomas Cunningham b 1967, Bernadette T Smith ** b.1956 and Julie Anne Cunningham, b. 1964 all of London; and several nieces, one nephew and many cousins.
    ** Smith was the name of Teresa Anastasia before marriage
    daughters of Seanc
    sister-in-law Liza[ m=Andrew

    No 9/11 tribute this year from widow Teresa on one of her pages,
    but only on the other…

    The legacy page has another tribute from Martin Bessex, school mate of Ilford, b 1961 Q4 same age as Micky.

    …for my friends, old, new and otherwise (wink!) who take a minute to send me and Liam heartfelt messages of love and prayers….

    Busy busy.

    Sister/sister in law Lisa Koebbe Schubel also posts a pic of Micky

    Is someone going to tell me that all these people are ‘sims’? Come on then.


    Strange things going on with the siblings – Paul Cunningham departed the flower company Auction Director Flowers (UK) Ltd in Salisbury on 25 November 2016, leaving his Farnham sibling Andrew (who had replaced Paul as company secretary) as sole director, then the company folded shortly afterwards.
    Around this time, Paul put up a curious facebook photo which remains

    which attracted the following exchanges
    Eliza Cunningham Why did you crop me out

    Eliza Cunningham That’s really rude

    Giles Warrack Looks like you’re carefully considering whether or not to give somebody two fingers.

    Iain Wilkinson Why?

    Anthony De Normann Why did you crop out GD?

    Eliza Cunningham Thanks for the support, I love you more than him anyway

    Tess Cunningham ??

    Giles Warrack I think we all need to back off here, and take a stiff drink.


    Eliza and Benmjamin are the children of Paul and Cilla/Priscilla

    Paul’s Aspace and Aspace Manufacturing companies have also ceased to exist.

    Andrew has taken down his facebook posts but his wife Liza maintains hers.

    Liza’s (Elizabeth Lillian) blog is moribund

    I was born and raised in London and worked as a PA secretary for many years before I had children nine years ago….

    …I moved to Farnham about six years ago, where I live with my husband and two children

    probably written in 2014

    From <a href=”Crown Business Communications
    PA to Richard Gill, Director
    Crown Business Communications
    September 1998 – April 2001 2 years 8 months”>Linkedin
    We moved out of London eleven years ago where I worked as a PA secretary for many years in various companies. My husband and I lived and worked abroad in New York ** and Sydney for approx four years before returning to England where we decided to have a family.
    ** That would be in 2001….when Micky was in his last months, and about to have a baby…(married 2004)

    Sean and family live in Brentwood, home of 9/11 “escapee” Janice Brooks having run an electrical business parents of Hannah and Natalie

    Here’s Micky again, from the 9/11 memorial fb page

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    It seems that tributes to “lost loved ones” seem to have petered out in 2021, the 20th anniversary.
    For example – no facebook comments from the then wife and children and other relatives** of John C Moran.
    Louise is now describing herself as ‘divorced’ although husband is still ‘married’… Fb posts have dried up and she’s resigned from the Osteopathy practice
    Louise is fb friends with ** John Moran’s brother’s family, although brother Kevin has apparently disappeared.
    Louise’s parents were quoted in the MSM in 2002 on the first anniversary, although they seem to have forgotten about ‘the tragedy’ more recently

    Another relative at [St Paul’s] cathedral, Tony Greene, said, “September 11 was so public. The TV report was so graphic and perpetual and ongoing. Those pictures … seeing them over and over creates a lot of grief for the families. They are very difficult and emotional and traumatic.”
    Tony Greene’s son-in-law John Moran had travelled to New York to give a lecture, a few days before his eldest son’s eighth birthday.

    Mr Moran, 37, had left behind his wife Louise in Surrey with their two year-old daughter and sons aged six and seven, and flown to the US with his company, accountancy firm Accenture. He was on the 106th floor when the terrorists struck.

    Mr Greene said, “We had been out to London to get a new bed all day and hadn’t seen the news.

    “My wife and daughter *** switched on the telly and we watched. We were hoping he wasn’t in there. But of course, he was.”

    ** actually his children were 6, 5 and 1 at 9/11. The journalist must be quoting their ages on 9/11/2002

    no mention of 9/11 anywhere. ditto another daughter

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    From a video in which carriers of those oh-so-quickly printed “missing persons” fliers were interviewed by the MSM…

    The very professional, polished woman at the start says she’s a “really good friend” of one of the TWO South African “victims” of 9/11: Nicholas or Nick Rowe. Allegedly “the boyfriend of my best friend”.

    So why isn’t her “best friend” here with the placard? Perhaps she’s not a ‘best friend’ but a good actor.
    I get the feeling that she’s remembering lines, putting in too much detail.
    Let’s dive into Nick Rowe, something of a rugby hunk with massively muscular body.
    We learn that the girlfriend was Michelle P Baker and that Nicholas Rowe was improbably at a Windows on the World conference.
    He worked for a company called Umevoice that designs speech recognition software.
    An first girlfriend checks in there, as well as someone called Michelle Bowker in South Africa in 2002 lol!
    Then this
    My name is kaitlyn baker [aged 3 in 2011]. My aunt, Michelle Baker, was his girlfriend.

    Quite a few photos, including Michelle Baker and parents here and rugger friends

    Parents Judy and Alec were part of the lawsuit which was needed to reinforce the highjacker narrative.
    Alexander Rowe, named as Personal
    Representative of the Estate of Nicholas
    Rowe, is a surviving Parent of Nicholas Rowe
    Rachael Logan is a surviving Sibling of
    Nicholas Rowe
    Alexander Rowe as legal guardian of
    Nadine Rowe, a surviving Sibling of Nicholas
    Paul Rowe is a surviving Sibling of Nicholas
    Michelle Baker is a surviving Fiancée of
    Nicholas Rowe
    Alexander Rowe on behalf of the Estate of
    Judith Rowe, a surviving Parent of Nicholas

    Michelle was a graduate student -1999 – at NSU in Florida, College of Allied Health

    His school remembers him in Johannesburg

    Who’s in on it, who’s not?

    This archived website is full of info and pictures, courtesy of a Hoboken NJ friend, Bernhard Lenz

    some of the pictures survive


    Sept 2021 Remembering the South Africans killed on 9/11

    Yes, Nick Lowe was allegedly setting up stands in the Risk Waters Conference in WotW.
    “UmeVoice CEO Adiathia Padala told the paper he was supposed to help Rowe but lost his keys before arriving at the World Trade Center.”

    Of course he did.

    “Rowe’s remains were among the first to be identified and returned to his family in SA. He was buried three weeks later at the family home overlooking False Bay.”

    Suuuure. Don’t they mean Fake Bay?

    “Springs-born Craig Neil Gibson, 37, was in the 94th-floor offices of Marsh & McLennan where he worked as insurance broker when the first plane struck the north tower.

    The company lost 295 employees and 63 consultants in the attack.

    Gibson, a former pupil at Brakpan High School, moved to Australia before moving to New York with his Australian wife, Danielle, a Unicef worker.”

    That was in December 2000 when the couple “emigrated”

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